Unabhängig von der Panther Lake CPU vielen mir beim Lesen zwei Punkte auf, die auch in der Zusammenfassung von @Allen Ngo erwähnt wurden. Beim (enttäuschenden) WiFi Durchsatz frage ich mich spontan, ob ASUS hier die Antenne gut gelegt hat. Denn so schön ein Metallgehäuse ist, es schirmt gerade die hohen Frequenzen gut ab. Deshalb ist es bei solchen Gehäusen besonders wichtig, daß die WiFi Antenne richtig platziert ist. Alternativ dazu könnten es (gerade bei ASUS) auch die Treiber sein.
Der zweite Punkt - Probleme mit dem Trackpad- ist für mich bei einem Subnotebook ein K.O. Kriterium.  Das geht gerade bei einem Business Laptop überhaupt nicht. Eingabegeräte, also Keyboard und Trackpad, die müssen 1A sein, sonst ist das Subnotebook unbrauchbar. Ich hatte vor Jahren mal so ein Ding mit schlechtem Trackpad - nie wieder! Sowas kommt mir nicht mehr in den Rucksack.
Wegen des Trackpads hätte die Benotung IMHO schlechter ausfallen müssen.

Sounds like a terrible idea. I turn vibration and haptic feedback off on my controllers, so this is just a step too far.

Noch ein Grund mehr, im Zweifelsfall und Privatsphäre wichtig ist gleich das Original - Signal - zu verwenden. Whats App soll(te) eigentlich ähnlich gute End-to-End Verschlüsselung haben, da Whats App (angeblich) die Engine von Signal verwendet, allerdings scheint Meta sich hier doch einiges an "Flexibilität" einzuräumen, die sich die Signal Foundation nicht gibt.
Bin mal gespannt, was da rauskommt, denn wenn die Klage recht hat, wär daß schon ein Hammer. 
@Notebookcheck:  scheinbar darf man in einem Kommentar zu dem Thema WA nicht ausschreiben, da sonst der Automat blockiert.

It's very well written and made me think a lot. kadashika

Quote from: veraverav on December 26, 2025, 00:27:23well, I powered up my P1 Gen 8 .. 265H/OLED/64GB RAM/2TB NVMe .. looks like that 5.5 hrs of battery life might be accurate at least on the "Balanced" profile for mixed-use. Haven't tried the one power setting below that "battery efficient". Not sure if the article mentioned which profile they used.

OLED is beautiful, but found latent image retention in darker environments where the brightness is at 25%. "After images" show up on dark grey and remain for minutes after. Possibly a defective panel.

Machine runs extremely cool and quiet. Lenovo has bee aggressive with power limits on the CPU. The one comment on YT with the guy who bough the non-dGPU one which doesn't use LM -- clearly getting a dGPU is the way to go if you want cool and quiet. Will the fans ramp up if you do something intense for extended periods, yes it will, but way better than my P1 Gen 2.

Did you return your OLED P1 Gen 8 / buy an IPS variant? I bought the OLED version and returned it due to all of the OLED issues discussed, but I'm curious how much better the IPS variant would be for battery life in addition to the overall quality of life improvements - no flickering, no image retention, no OLED text quality issues, better matte coating quality, no non-standard 3.2k resolution quirks etc..

Has anyone done a head-to-head on the P1 Gen 8 or T1 Gen 8 Tandem OLED (3.2K) vs their 4K IPS panels? Kinda surprised Notebookcheck reviewed the OLED versions of both and then griped about the same OLED downsides twice—what's the point there?

I tried the P1 Gen 8 with the 3.2K Tandem OLED and ended up returning it. Build quality, performance, and keyboard were all top-notch, but that OLED display just tanked the whole experience for me.

The non-standard 3.2K resolution means streaming services like Netflix and Prime cap you at 1080p because they don't see it as "true 4K." The matte coating makes bright HDR scenes look grainy and washed out, and there are tons of Reddit reports about flickering and image retention that I also experienced so it seems that many units (all units?) are affected by these issues. Text clarity takes a hit too compared to IPS, especially being 3.2k / having a sub-4K resolution, and fine details in photo editing look noticeably blurrier.

If Lenovo drops a 2026 Panther Lake version with a native 4K Tandem OLED that has a decent anti-reflective coating and fixes the flicker/retention issues, it'd be an absolute beast of a laptop. Right now though, this OLED config just isn't workable for either content consumption or productivity. Zero stars for the Tandem OLED. I'd strongly recommend avoiding any variants using this substandard display option.