Just checked the site, for some of the games I actively play. People have a very loose definition of "perfect".

For example:

• Age of Empires 2 DE runs at 24.82 fps (need 45 minimum)
• Counter Strike 2 runs at 75 fps (need 120 minimum)

Both are clearly not playable at that level of performance. There is more but I'm lazy to keep listing because it's all 20-50 fps nonsense categorized as "perfect". Right...

Quote from: Neenyah on Today at 12:41:42Windows 11 [is] extremely bloated even if you debloat everything down to nothing

IYO, what bloat remains after your (insufficient?) debloating efforts?

QuoteRecall [...] 'AI Explorer,' [...] will be bloated even more like it or not.

We need to await whether this can be deactivated by deactivating one or several Windows Services, group policy object settings or GUI settings. So far, nobody could say anything about such, if any, possibilities.

Quote from: RobertJasiek on Today at 12:12:53

Quote from: Im not steve on Today at 10:28:47windows is a bloated OS.

Not all versions of Windows have bloatware and Index / Windows Search but current consumer versions have some. That does not mean that Windows is bloated but it means that the out-of-box experience is. Spend an hour for settings and the bloatware is gone.

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Once bloat- and crapwares are tamed, Windows is fast. As fast as XP or Windows 7.

While this is bad for sure, do not misinform people by exaggerating description!

This article is about the upcoming Snapdragon SoCs; the X Elite (and Plus) ARM chips work only with Windows 11 (and with Linux) so the fact that older Windows versions aren't much bloated is of not much help in this case here.

All Windows 11 options are extremely bloated even if you debloat everything down to nothing, even Tiny11 (which is spyware) is bloated more than Windows 10 Home stock variant. And then with 24H2 there is even more bloat coming, including implemented malware straight from Microsoft themselves:

https://x.com/ripcache/status/1792972157464748243

https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/microsoft-reveals-ai-powered-recall-feature-to-transform-windows-11s-searchability-while-confirming-hardware-requirements

"So, how does Recall work?

In the past we've seen reports of a rumored feature, often referred to as 'AI Explorer,' that would enable you to search through your past activity on your PC. It looks like this has manifested as the Recall feature, and it'll be privy to all the activity on your PC including what apps you use, how you use those apps, and what you do in them (for example, conversations in WhatsApp). Recall will record all of this activity going forward, saving snapshots of it in your PC's local storage."

So yes, it is extremely bloated and it will be bloated even more like it or not.

"Geräutschunterdrückung" haben die Teile nicht

Quote from: Im not steve on Today at 10:28:47windows is a bloated OS.

Not all versions of Windows have bloatware and Index / Windows Search but current consumer versions have some. That does not mean that Windows is bloated but it means that the out-of-box experience is. Spend an hour for settings and the bloatware is gone. If you do not know which settings, spend a day informing yourself. OEMs may include crapware, which needs extra hours for deinstallation or deactivation.

So not Windows per se is bloated but typical initial installations need time and effort for debloating.

Once bloat- and crapwares are tamed, Windows is fast. As fast as XP or Windows 7.

While this is bad for sure, do not misinform people by exaggerating description!

Da gebe ich dir vollkommen Recht, dann währen auch wieder günstigere Smartphones mit ansonsten top Ausstattung machbar.
Bei 5 Jahren Nutzung relativiert sich der Preis dann natürlich etwas.

Ich habe mein derzeitiges S23 hauptsächlich aufgrund der Größe gekauft, gerade die Videofeatures (S-Log etc.) machen die Sonys für mich allerdings sehr interessant.
Wenn die große Kamera gerade mal nicht dabei ist wäre das für mich ein Mehrwert, den ich gerne bezahlen würde, da man den Content auch farblich super auf den Bildlook einer richtigen Kamera anpassen kann.
Davon abgesehen kann man das alte Xperia Pro z.B. auch als externen Monitor für Sony Kameras nutzen, was absolut genial ist.