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Lenovo ThinkPad T14s: AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U leaves Intel in the dust

Started by Redaktion, July 16, 2020, 01:46:34

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thunderlalka

QuoteIf AMD can keep up, then the only real argument for the Intel model would be the Thunderbolt 3 support.
Big deal. That thunderbolt is 2 PCIe lanes crippled courtesy of Lenovo anyway.

thunderlalka

Quote from: dfasdsad on July 16, 2020, 11:38:13
No...AMD is just lazy and doesn't invest $ in partnerships with OEMs. They expect OEMs to do their work.
Dell G5 15 Intel is fine.
Dell G5 15 SE features fantastic value with 4600H and 5600M but has mindblowing 199Hz PWM below 99% brightness.
Checkmate.


Anonym

Quote from: dfasdsad on July 16, 2020, 11:38:13No...AMD is just lazy and doesn't invest $ in partnerships with OEMs. They expect OEMs to do their work.
Thank you for the good laugh. These AMD fanboys, expecting OEMs to do their work... don't they know AMD has to grease the wheels to get things going?

Just because bribery, kick-back, and general forms of corruption are fine where-ever you live, it doesn't mean the rest of the world shares your moral compass.

Phil W

Quote from: shlomoa on July 16, 2020, 14:23:27
A joke right ?
4 times the memory ?
what is this ?

Notice that the Ryzen laptop with 32 GB of RAM costs the same as the Intel version with 8 GB. Shouldn't matter for the benches they ran here anyhow.

hey pablo

Hey Pable why so impatient? A T470 or so is way better for linux.
It takes some time to make thinkpads really good linux machines.
But if you want to spend hours on a brand new laptop just to get initial sickness out to run linux go for it

zamroni

Quote from: thunderlalka on July 16, 2020, 14:03:10
QuoteIf AMD can keep up, then the only real argument for the Intel model would be the Thunderbolt 3 support.
Big deal. That thunderbolt is 2 PCIe lanes crippled courtesy of Lenovo anyway.

The 4x lanes direct to cpu is used by nvme ssd.
So, the choices are 2x direct to cpu or 4x via pch chipset.

RocketPak

Congratulations.  The horribly biased article just got this site blocked from my google news feed.

Batuz

Quote from: RocketPak on July 17, 2020, 08:32:35
Congratulations.  The horribly biased article just got this site blocked from my google news feed.
How is it biased? If AMD just outperforms everyone else do you expect them to diminish the performance just so that it soothes you?

Anonym

Quote from: Batuz on July 17, 2020, 10:55:04How is it biased? If AMD just outperforms everyone else do you expect them to diminish the performance just so that it soothes you?
There are some people that live in a bubble where pricing does not matter, only what the PR people of each company say is the right equivalent product.

Thus, their bubble bursts when they realize that a similarly priced competing product can have much better specs and trounce the so-called "PR equivalent" of the other company.


Anonym

Quote from: Robin12 on July 17, 2020, 16:32:05
Comparing apples and oranges.
It's two Thinkpad T14s that cost pretty much the same. Not totally different manufacturers or series, literally variants of the same model that cost the same. Kudos to NBc for not falling to the fallacy of comparing a much cheaper AMD configuration against a more expensive Intel one, price matters, and this is the leveled playing field.

Instead of asking Intel to bribe OEMs (like some guy down the comments), ask them to lower their prices.

Bruce Wellington

Biased article? Apples vs. oranges? Wtf?

Why are these people so butt hurt/in denial that AMD chips are superior?

Fantastic investigation by the author. This is the most controlled comparison I've seen because the laptop chasis are the same. Numbers don't lie.


Seriouscat

Quote from: RocketPak on July 17, 2020, 08:32:35
Congratulations.  The horribly biased article just got this site blocked from my google news feed.

I wholeheartedly agree. Happy is the site that gets rid of snide commenters.

I immediately noticed the price parity and I guess that the memory or storage speeds don't have that much effect on CPU benchmarks. I just wish they'd make one single T series Thinkpad with 16:10, two DIMM slots, a display with >90 % sRGB and just any Ryzen, with good linux support thrown in.

Seriouscat

Quote from: hey pablo on July 16, 2020, 23:51:02
A T470 or so is way better for linux.

Is there more info on this? I've been looking for this sweet spot for some time now. Guess it isn't at T495 yet anyway.

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