Intel Panther Lake Core Ultra X9 388H performance analysis - Outpaces Arrow Lake and exceeds Zen 5 in efficiency

[Worgarthe]

Indeed, I must admit that you are a "genius" too, because I have never written about the iGPU and never will,

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There is no "Intel's iGPU", there is only TSMC's iGPU glued to Intel.

Once again:

There is no "Intel's iGPU", there is only TSMC's iGPU glued to Intel.

[M2026]

@opckieran
,,Nobody said anything about Intel falling because of foreigners."
Of course not, but I thought (naively) that you can get the point – it was about whether foreigners are responsible for "everything bad" in the USA – including Intel's results...
You didn't get it, but that's okay...


,,And if you want to talk about being able to wipe your a**, the non-western world has a much bigger problem with that. Public sewer/sanitation doesn't even exist as a concept to many of them!"
That wasn't about sewer/sanitation at all. loool

To make you understand, I tried to point out that people who are bothered by foreigners would be completely done without them - figuratively speaking, "you can't even wipe your ... without them"...

PS: who do you think is a "true American"? You? Then you must be a native American whose origins date back to before 1492!
(as a "true American" I hope you at least know why I mentioned 1492 :)))

[CLB]

better than the 390 only up to ca 38W.

This makes sense when you consider out of the 16 panther lake cores, 4 are ultra low power. So they don't really count for performance tasks or as performance cores.

So for really a 12 core to compete another 12 core up to 38w. I would say that's reasonable.

It also shows just how much Intel's e cores have improved. They're almost zen 5 like in performance or equal to intel's own P cores.

The only thing that's missing is avx-512 which will be coming in Nova Lake.

[M2026]

"There is no "Intel's iGPU", there is only TSMC's iGPU glued to Intel."
The point of this sentence was that Intel doesn't make its own iGPU either...not that I'm interested in iGPUs...

Some people here must be members of the no-thinking sect, because they are unable to understand even a hint of irony.

I don't know why, but when I reply to Trump fanatics here (or on other forums), an unnamed song by an unnamed American band from 2004 comes to mind, which deals with the situation caused by the education system that was "destroyed by foreigners" :)))

[Worgarthe]

"There is no "Intel's iGPU", there is only TSMC's iGPU glued to Intel."
The point of this sentence was that Intel doesn't make its own iGPU either...not that I'm interested in iGPUs...

Some people here must be members of the no-thinking sect,

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There is no "Intel's iGPU", there is only TSMC's iGPU glued to Intel. loool

So you just described AMD, Apple and Nvidia. Nothing but TSMC's dGPUs and iGPUs. Coping level pro.

[opckieran]

@opckieran
,,Nobody said anything about Intel falling because of foreigners."
Of course not, but I thought (naively) that you can get the point – it was about whether foreigners are responsible for "everything bad" in the USA – including Intel's results...
You didn't get it, but that's okay...


,,And if you want to talk about being able to wipe your a**, the non-western world has a much bigger problem with that. Public sewer/sanitation doesn't even exist as a concept to many of them!"
That wasn't about sewer/sanitation at all. loool

To make you understand, I tried to point out that people who are bothered by foreigners would be completely done without them - figuratively speaking, "you can't even wipe your ... without them"...

PS: who do you think is a "true American"? You? Then you must be a native American whose origins date back to before 1492!
(as a "true American" I hope you at least know why I mentioned 1492 :)))

What the heck are you talking about?? "Wiping my a**" has literally everything to do with sewer and sanitization loool unless you're gross and just drop it wherever (again, far more common outsite the West).


And since clearly facts are a real challenge for you:

An American is someone who is a descendent of the Anglo/Western European settlers who eventually founded and constituted the internationally diplomatically recognized power known as the United States of America (Hence, "American"). It does not pertain to any peoples of any other groups or nations which may have been here beforehand; those people did not even refer to themselves as Americans! They had their own cultures and customs. So, implying them to be "true Americans" is just an inaccurate, cope thing to do. Typical of TDS.

Please tell me you didn't pay too much for your Learing Center Diploma 🤣🤣🤣

[RobertJasiek]

Ok, but just speak of US citizens.

[well]

@all the stupid trumpist and other "geniuses":

According to ThePhawx YT video, here are the numbers:

CPU/TDP        10W    15W    20W    28W    30W    35W    40W    45W
AI MAX 390    370    587    645    840    910    1005    1080    1140
AI MAX+ 395    510    674    796    1020    1075    1155    1228    1379
X9 388H        560    691    796    940    975    1025    1078    1120

So, the X9 388H is better than the 395 only up to ca 22W and better than the 390 only up to ca 38W. That is it...

But isn't this power envelope is what matters for reasonable lightweight and portable laptops.

[Citizen_not_Consumer]

@all the stupid Mr. Bullyist and other "geniuses":

According to ThePhawx YT video, here are the numbers:

CPU/TDP        10W    15W    20W    28W    30W    35W    40W    45W
AI MAX 390    370    587    645    840    910    1005    1080    1140
AI MAX+ 395    510    674    796    1020    1075    1155    1228    1379
X9 388H        560    691    796    940    975    1025    1078    1120

So, the X9 388H is better than the 395 only up to ca 22W and better than the 390 only up to ca 38W. That is it...

But isn't this power envelope is what matters for reasonable lightweight and portable laptops.

But X9 388H needs 61.4 watts when playing games, so no, 22 watts is not what matters. At 61.4 395 Halo leaves it in the dust: notebookcheck.net/Asus-ExpertBook-Ultra-review-One-helluva-debut-for-Intel-Panther-Lake-X7.1209366.0.html#c15434979

[Consumers_Are_Citizens]

But X9 388H needs 61.4 watts when playing games, so no, 22 watts is not what matters.

You do realize 65 watts is the absolute max this chip can draw right?

It draws 60+ watt when running Prime95+Furmark combined.

Obviously, that 61.4 watts is running on max profile and likely when connected to charger. (Although author could make it a bit more clear here)

But just like strix halo can get much of its performance at 55w and even scales well to down to 35w from its max 120w. So too can panther lake. It does not need the full wattage to perform well:

notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/_processed_/webp/Notebooks/Asus/ExpertBook_Ultra_B9406CAA/stresscyberbala-png-q82-w2560-h.webp

This from running Cyberpunk stress test on balanced profile. You see here, 25w.

[M2026]

@opckieran
,,What the heck are you talking about?? "Wiping my a**" has literally everything to do with sewer and sanitization..."
I never had a high opinion of the "geniuses" who voted for Bush jr. or now Trump, but you are unique even among them, because even an imbecile (IQ ca 30-50) would understand that simple sarcastic remark...

So, for the Trump "geniuses" - my remark that you can't even wipe your a** in the USA without foreigners means, that without those foreigners the USA would COLLAPSE, you "genius", because a significant part of the lousy jobs no American wants to do, you "genius", those are very often the worst jobs and of course, poorly paid ones, you "Trump-type genius".
That is one pillar of the US economy - the use of cheap labor of foreigners/from abroad.

The second, much more important, is printing worthless green paper, the production of which costs 1-2 cents per piece, but has a face "value" 100 (USD), which you then export to the whole world and the world gives you REAL VALUES for that paper - that is a 5000-10 000-fold appreciation of the green paper. Drug dealers can only dream about that, and this is exactly what the prosperity of the US is based on - these 2 pillars.

When it comes to foreigners and the worst jobs, it often changes after 1-2 generations, because those foreigners very often do not suffer from intellectual deficits (which is not your case), which is why they manage to get high on the social ladder.
Just look at the people who work and often even manage, for example, Intel, AMD, NVIDIA, Google or other companies, because being born in the USA is not a qualification, you also need to have something in your head and you "geniuses" cannot understand that and the only thing you know is whining and blaming others for your own incompetence and you are clear proof of that...

Without foreigners, exporting green paper to the whole world, and patents from Britain (for free) and the Nazis (stolen) you would still be producing that old Nazi's car - the Ford T!
That's why you should kiss foreigners' asses, not insult them, you retard...sorry, "genius".