Quote from: A on December 20, 2023, 13:41:16Quote from: Neenyah on December 20, 2023, 13:12:01Yeah, handhelds manage by running it at around 800p with FSR/DLSS (so the actual resolution is even lower).
Sounds fine to enjoy the _game_.
Perhaps, depends about a game too. Sons of The Forest and The Forest certainly not as you need very high or ultra draw distance (which is extremely taxing for the (i)GPU) to see, well, far enough to not just enjoy the whole wonderful world around you but also to notice cannibals before it's too late as they aren't just very smart (great work on AI there from the devs, kudos to them on that) but insanely agile, fast and aggressive in their movement and attacks. Plus they almost always attack in groups against you (and your friend if you play together in co op) alone. On handhelds, including the very powerful ROG Ally, with very high or ultra draw distance your fps will tank below 12-15 at most and I guarantee you that such experience is not enjoyable nor playable.
Quote from: A on December 20, 2023, 13:41:16Quote from: Neenyah on December 20, 2023, 13:12:011080 Ti is a GPU from 2017. Full six years later and the card can run literally any existing game on the market in fully maxed details at 60+ fps on at least 1080p (and many at 1440p).
Totally not Cyberpunk
Ehm,
totally yes? And that's an older vid when the game was still poorly optimized, back then even strong iGPUs like the 680M were unable to run it at 30+ fps at all low but now, after many patches, the game runs at almost double the fps on that same 680M.
Ultra with FSR 70+ fps on the 1080 Ti, new vid this time.
Quote from: A on December 20, 2023, 13:41:16Quote from: Neenyah on December 20, 2023, 13:12:01You can buy it used for like $100 or less.
Or just get a console or GFN. As an added bonus your laptop battery will last longer.
Many games I play are not available on consoles plus I heavily prefer keyboard + mouse to play, but how will my laptop battery last longer? 🤔
Quote from: A on December 20, 2023, 13:41:16Quote from: Neenyah on December 20, 2023, 13:12:01Nhf but this sounds like something NikoB would say
Maybe, but I'm still strongly against it. Use the time to learn something new or play a fun game with family.
Fair point. But what if you can play competitively and earn real money while doing so? Is it better to play the game
unpaid or play that same game for the same amount of time competitively on FACEIT and earn decent money in return (while also having fun of playing the game)? I have bought every single game on Steam with money earned from playing CSGO/CS2 on FACEIT - I play there, earn FACEIT points, exchange them for Steam wallet money or for other stuff (or even for real money). Heck my brand new M1 Air (base model, I sold it a few months ago) was purchased with CSGO money, same with plenty of other tech (like my TUF 240 Hz 1440p monitor, both AMD GPUs previously mentioned) and many CSGO/CS2 skins where I almost double their worth over time 🤷�♂️ Am I a pro player? Definitely not. Am I still able to earn fairly decent bonus money by just being better than average and then spend that money on other things in life, or on/with dear people and family? Well yeah. So I don't see anything wrong there.
Quote from: A on December 20, 2023, 13:41:16Quote from: Neenyah on December 20, 2023, 13:12:01You find it to be a waste of life, someone else can say the same for something you do in your life. Why judge if it doesn't affect you and the quality of your own life, that's the question...
Screenshot this and get back to it in 20 years )
🤷�♂️
Quote from: A on December 20, 2023, 13:41:16Quote from: Neenyah on December 20, 2023, 13:12:01So no official sources but personal interpretations from reviewers and tech journalists.
So you prefer to stay naive and pretend the verbiage using word "first" everywhere is just a coincidence, okay, it's your right. But, if you go through the headlines, you will clearly see the borderline narrative is to mislead non-savvy person to believe these chips are the first ones.
"Intel Brings NPU to Client Chips for the First Time" - read this headline from perspective of avg. Joe.
Well yeah, exactly -
their own client chips for the first time.
Their, Intel, chips. Not to all existing chips in the world as they don't design/make/manufacture Nvidia's, AMD's nor Apple's chips. They already have NPUs for enterprises but this is the first time they have them available for "average Joes" (clients, regular people, whatever you call it) so instead of having i7, i9 whatever, say 13900K or 1360P without NPU, now for this first time ever they will have them
in their new lineup.
Quote from: A on December 20, 2023, 13:41:16Quote from: Neenyah on December 20, 2023, 13:12:01So... shared memory. Ok.
No, again, CPU and GPU RAM are separate in "shared memory". Everything has to be copied to "VRAM" to be usable by GPU, much like if GPU was on PCIe bus. In "unified memory" they can access the same RAM. It's like your external GPU could directly just get textures and vertices without the need of expensive copy operation.
You are correct there but you talk about iGPU, not dGPU. Apple's unified memory is still nothing but shared memory, just superior to x86's side as it's muuuuuch faster and that benefits their iGPU a lot to the point of being clearly much faster than AMD's or Intel's iGPUs. Still shared RAM, not dedicated to GPU.
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