Quote from: nones on January 03, 2025, 00:51:41For example, Russia was able to produce spy satellites at the same time as the USA, BUT they were about 4x bigger and had about 10x worse resolution, this resulted from the inability to approach the production of nanotechnology in the West. Today's commercial satellites have better resolution than the current Russian spy ones. In the next few decades they will not get below 65nm, they have no intention of doing so and China will not give them anything, only ready-made chips, it is not stupid and will not create competition.

I don't think you know what latest Russian sattelites can do. Russia is arguably top 2 in terms of satellite surveillance. Also are you claiming that in at least 30 years Russia can't get lower than 65 nm? You say they have no intention while their roadmap and investments say the opposite. Good chance they'll get to 28 nm or lower by the end the decade.

Quote from: anan on December 26, 2024, 14:09:30Is it doable - probably 'Yes'. At least the theory seems sound. But to do this in Russia!? They could not create anything worthwhile when they had access to western tech. A lot of money meant for domestic chipmaking disappeared in local corruption schemes.
So now they will try to do the same thing but in HARD mode. Yeah, I am skeptical of their success in this...

What western tech Russia had access to?I think you mixed up Russia with China, Russia was sanctioned since USSR and was never allowed to get hands on latest tech. Also Russia never invested lot of money into chipmaking, only now they are doing so. Russia did key laser research for ASML though.                             

For example, Russia was able to produce spy satellites at the same time as the USA, BUT they were about 4x bigger and had about 10x worse resolution, this resulted from the inability to approach the production of nanotechnology in the West. Today's commercial satellites have better resolution than the current Russian spy ones. In the next few decades they will not get below 65nm, they have no intention of doing so and China will not give them anything, only ready-made chips, it is not stupid and will not create competition.

Is it doable - probably 'Yes'. At least the theory seems sound. But to do this in Russia!? They could not create anything worthwhile when they had access to western tech. A lot of money meant for domestic chipmaking disappeared in local corruption schemes.
So now they will try to do the same thing but in HARD mode. Yeah, I am skeptical of their success in this...

I'm impressed on how out of touch some of the comments are, I'll take it mostly from Americans. I'm not in anyway associated with Russia or China, but it's idiotic to disregard them as relevant. For many years USSR was equal to USA in space exploration and until recently needed for all satellite launches. China holds most of the patents in AI and chip design (just Google it) and it's very short sighted to regard them as copy cats.

what i know about russia,
vodka
porno models
weapons
but i never knew that they can make any tech

Quote from: Falcon on December 22, 2024, 21:11:15So they can't build roads yet

What a bunch of B.S.

Quote from: Falcon on December 22, 2024, 21:11:15, but are into nano? Skipping several layers of evolution

You mean like Intel, which skipped over all nodes since 14nm in a half-assed state (which is 10nm and downwards...) and having bad yields, not capable to produce for the mass market, and now think 18A magically works out of the box?

Lot of brain dead main stream media aka lame/shame stream media followers low IQ intellect forget about the shambolic corruption and wider ponzi ran by the US and the wider EU block.

Grow up and read independent news media outlets.

notebookcheck, just remove the article to save your reputation. All comments here are so true I confirm :)

Quote from: Falcon on December 22, 2024, 21:11:15So they can't build roads yet, but are into nano? Skipping several layers of evolution

So true. Them and china only have thaousands of tsarv6.5 and they want to try nano. Lol. They need to make millions of that first.

So they can't build roads yet, but are into nano? Skipping several layers of evolution

Why there allow for has posted russian fake propaganda?

Another thing in corruption schemes, there will be no results but stolen money of russian people, which will be transfer into bank accounts of US and EU, and never will be arrested or sanctioned, it is part of finance system of the west getting money from peanut cuntries such Russia and others.

If they are still at the step "Start with research: Nail the essential tech and test out components.", it's going to take over 10 years to get a machine produced...

China pouring in hundreds of billions and stealing IP whenever it can: I couldn't get anywhere near ASML.
Unknown Russian, in his broken country:
I'm a magician and I'm going to pull an alternative to ASML out of my hat.