Laptop OEMs to allegedly shift away from Intel's underwhelming Meteor Lake and offer more AMD Ryzen 8000U/H models

[Redaktion]

Moore's Law is Dead presents quotes from a few major laptop OEMs and even provides a statement from an intel employee regarding the grim situation with Meteor Lake. The performance lift over Raptor Lake seems minimal so laptop OEMs are refocusing their marketing strategies to include more AMD-powered models.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Laptop-OEMs-to-allegedly-shift-away-from-Intel-s-underwhelming-Meteor-Lake-and-offer-more-AMD-Ryzen-8000U-H-models.770866.0.html

[jakub]

"you're going to see us lean into AI, Graphics and per/Watt for marketing."
... That's what Intel was lacking, no? Not raw CPU performance, but those things. So they focused on that and OEMs are angry that it doesn't sound as sexy in marketing materials as RAW POWER!!!

[A]

Good luck, AMD isn't even close to production capabilities of Intel.

[huh]

Good luck, AMD isn't even close to production capabilities of Intel.

Er. Sorry, but do you think AMD fabs their own chips?

[A]

Er. Sorry, but do you think AMD fabs their own chips?

Did I say that anywhere?

[Truther]

Took them long enough..... Its crazy no matter how much info the and benchmarks the community & internet shoved into OEM's faces they still kept sucking the intel toes for laptop design. Microsoft was the first casualty to basically kill off the surface line because they refused to integrate AMD chips for years now even though it would have given them a market advantage. In the end Surface is dead and now that other OEM manufactures are starting to feel the heat of declining sales they finally realize they should have long swapped over to AMD for the performance & battery gains. Its crazy how hard the industry chased for that Intel branding and lost market share as result.

[Canol]

With Meteor Lake, the important thing is power efficiency, not performance. As a customer, I want long battery life, the performance of Raptor Lake is already good.

[RobertJasiek]

Yes, and I just wonder why they cannot simply advertise efficiency? It is still outside the DNA of manufacturers.

[Delta8088]

A laptop you can game on with high quality graphics built in isn't a big deal? I have been holding off for Meteor Lake and this is exactly what I wanted.

[A]

now is a good time to grab popcorn and watch every Intel boy laughing at Apple for advertising efficiency jumping onto the power efficiency boat

[RobertJasiek]

It makes sense for Apple to advertise efficiency but it is wrong and false to advertise, and have Applefans mindlessly repeating advertising, it as if it were more efficient than anything else in any application. Likewise, it is wrong and false by Emma to advertise AMD as if its KI was the saviour of everybody. Likewise, it is wrong and false to expect Intel to overcome Nvidia's and AMD's achievements within a few years. Intel has its strengths, especially in low power single core applications, but its weakness of multi core is excessive inefficiency.

[Bp]

Offcourse OEM's don't like the efficiency path Intel is headed.
 
It means less hardware sold and more software optimizations. Just like with Apple's M chips.
OEM's like under optimized, super expensive half products, with 2-3 years usable life.
They don't like efficient machines, since they might last much much longer.

[Anonymousgg]

Good luck, AMD isn't even close to production capabilities of Intel.

Meteor Lake is dependent on the tiles that TSMC can fab for Intel.

"you're going to see us lean into AI, Graphics and per/Watt for marketing."
... That's what Intel was lacking, no? Not raw CPU performance, but those things. So they focused on that and OEMs are angry that it doesn't sound as sexy in marketing materials as RAW POWER!!!

So many consumers are buying laptops now, that they are filling the roles that desktops should be used for. Many 45W+ laptop APUs w/ dGPUs, and even desktop-class chips shoved into laptops.

The problem here seems to be that Meteor Lake isn't living up to previous estimates and expectations, but more importantly it's very late, missing back to school season, Black Friday, and the Christmas shopping season outside of a December 14th paper launch. We still have to see how good the graphics and power efficiency are, and very few buyers will care about the dedicated AI accelerator at this point. Unless they fall for Intel's marketing.

[A]

Applefans mindlessly repeating advertising, it as if it were more efficient than anything else in any application

Can you be more specific, who said M is more efficient than anything for any application. Giving 2-3 examples will not be troublesome for you?
Or did you just write it for more dramatic effect?

[A]

Meteor Lake is dependent on the tiles that TSMC can fab for Intel.

They just want to keep as many fabs as possible busy worldwide so AMD can't use them. CPU performance isn't everything, there's mind games over mind games over mind games in corp world.