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Linux vs Windows 11: 3 underrated and common features that make the open-source software superior

Started by Redaktion, April 25, 2023, 06:03:19

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Quote from: Hotz on August 11, 2023, 11:38:21That's the problem. It's not worth the amount of work, if there isn't a standard linux desktop experience.

It would only be worth the amount of work, if there was a standard linux desktop experience. Because then would be a standardized way to sort out problems. But this isn't possible if everybody has a different linux distribution installed. Look at how many problems Windows 7 alone has produced, now multiply that with every linux distribution. That would be utter madness. Simply not worth the trouble for anyone but hardcore enthusiasts.

Without a standard desktop linux experience, everybody would use another distribution, which all come with their own kernel versions, package managers, UI managers, different apps, etc. - which in combination produce their own problems. What works for person A, does not work for person B. And what works for person B does not work for person A. It would be madness trying to give support for such a chaos. Consequently most companies don't want to give linux support, nor want to write software for such a chaos.

On the backend it is all the same, kernel version doesn't really matter much unless you are on latest hardware, otherwise it would be rare for kernel to be a problem. For package managers, there are mostly the big 2, DNF/YUM or APT. But most regular users will never touch them as they all come with GUI ones.

The only big difference for most users is the UI, and just go with whatever fits your needs. If you want to recommend to new users, you can't go wrong with Linux Mint (Cinnamon for new pcs, Mate for old)

As for giving support, no one does that. Most OEMs that do offer linux generally stick to 1 distro.

For writing software, there is no reason to support all kinds of distros, appimage, flatpak and distrobox are a thing you know? With that, you don't need to worry about what linux version they have, as long as you bundle your dependencies, they will just work

NikoB

Again, stupid demagogy from amateur A. Which, moreover, is completely refuted by the share of Linux among users outside the server market. It is negligible and has practically not grown in 25 years. And it will never grow with the mess that is going on there, as well as the incredible complexity of setting up and a bunch of glitches that no one has fixed at all and will not fix.

As one of the users correctly wrote recently - even getting hardware acceleration in browsers and a bunch of other things to work normally there is a non-trivial task (often impossible) even for an IT professional, not to mention an ordinary user who gets all this in Windows with a couple of clicks.

A

Quote from: NikoB on August 14, 2023, 14:24:56Again, stupid demagogy from amateur A. Which, moreover, is completely refuted by the share of Linux among users outside the server market. It is negligible and has practically not grown in 25 years. And it will never grow with the mess that is going on there, as well as the incredible complexity of setting up and a bunch of glitches that no one has fixed at all and will not fix.

As one of the users correctly wrote recently - even getting hardware acceleration in browsers and a bunch of other things to work normally there is a non-trivial task (often impossible) even for an IT professional, not to mention an ordinary user who gets all this in Windows with a couple of clicks.

Again your clueless statements despite being proven wrong time and time again. Outside server marketshare is Android which runs linux and has way more users than Windows does. The only place windows has dominance is the "Desktop" category, that is all, every other category from routers, mobile, car infotainment, smart devices and etc, Linux/*nix dominate.

There is no problem getting hardware acceleration working on linux, on most distros it works out of box

NikoB

You have just confirmed the title of inveterate demagogue. Android is not a work environment, it's entertainment and content consumption.
Windows is a working environment. In the desktop environment market, Linux shamefully sits in the corner with its miserable 1-2% for 25 years. And this is fair.

And in browsers under Linux, as the author of this article convincingly proved (which I personally encountered when trying to use Ubuntu LTS), practically nothing and nothing works, including hardware acceleration. And to fill up the system in normal user mode to an unbootable state is as easy as shelling pears. Try doing the same trick with Windows.

A

Quote from: NikoB on August 14, 2023, 23:19:33You have just confirmed the title of inveterate demagogue. Android is not a work environment, it's entertainment and content consumption.
Windows is a working environment. In the desktop environment market, Linux shamefully sits in the corner with its miserable 1-2% for 25 years. And this is fair.

And in browsers under Linux, as the author of this article convincingly proved (which I personally encountered when trying to use Ubuntu LTS), practically nothing and nothing works, including hardware acceleration. And to fill up the system in normal user mode to an unbootable state is as easy as shelling pears. Try doing the same trick with Windows.

Who are you to decide what is a work environment and what isn't?

In the first place, most of the "work environment" has moved to the cloud. Much of it powered by linux.

Though not sure why work environment even matters since who decided that is what the discussion is about?

Linux does not sit at 1-2% of desktop, its at 3% now. Add another 3% from ChromeOS which also runs linux at its at over 6%. If you count all *nix operating systems, OSX has 20% so total for all *nix systems is 26%. Though the number may be higher because many linux users make their useragent windows for privacy reasons

I had no problems with hardware acceleration on linux. The only thing I can think of is you didn't load the store chrome and opted for the download and didn't pass the parameter to enable it. Or you tested years ago


NikoB

As usual, A is completely nonsense, about some 26%, although an elementary search for statistics clearly says that all Linux desktop versions (open-source) do not even occupy 3% of the total share of desktop OS.

Smoke less, A. Your demagoguery and lies are already tiring everyone.

Neenyah

Niko, as usual, flexing his inability to read and understand what was written despite being written so clearly and easily to understand for anyone with a functional brain. Simply lovely to read 😂

Let me help you my poor disabled friend:

Quote from: A on August 17, 2023, 07:55:26Linux does not sit at 1-2% of desktop, its at 3% now. Add another 3% from ChromeOS which also runs linux at its at over 6%. If you count all *nix operating systems, OSX has 20% so total for all *nix systems is 26%.


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Quote from: NikoB on August 20, 2023, 11:49:08...although an elementary search for statistics clearly says that all Linux desktop versions (open-source) do not even occupy 3% of the total share of desktop OS.

As usual, fake "data", trolling and spam coming from you.

https://imgur.com/zsuPGFW

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/




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