Intel Panther Lake Arc B390 performance and efficiency analysis: Intel's new iGPU trades blows with the Nvidia GeForce RTX 4050

[je07681]

@opckieran 15 hours ago
,,Intel has just delivered +70% iGPU..."
Yep, just a slight correction – TSMC, not Intel :)

What is the name of the TSMC iGPU involved?  Or are you confusing who fabbed the iGPU chip with the actual product?

[ObsfuNOT]

Why is there no full Render configuration Information on that Intel slide In the Form of Shaders:TMUs:ROPs? And how are folks to get the Theoretical maximum GTexel and GPixel processing rates to compare to other's iGPU designs that have the Shaders:TMUs:ROPs info published. I'm sure that just listing the RT and Matrix Math units counts is insufficient as there are still Raster Only Gaming Titles out there that still get played and if AI Up_scaling or Frame generation is not used because it's not really needed for a 5W gaming title!

[opckieran]

@opckieran 15 hours ago
,,Intel has just delivered +70% iGPU..."
Yep, just a slight correction – TSMC, not Intel :)

What is the name of the TSMC iGPU involved?  Or are you confusing who fabbed the iGPU chip with the actual product?

That's his whole shtick. He's a fanboy with a late '90s personal computing mindset who can't stand the fact that Intel delivered a good product, so he tries to deflect by crediting the manufacturing node over Intel's engineering here (which is pointless; delivered products are what count, not the node).

Funnier still, he has failed to consider the basic notion that by his ridiculous "logic", neither AMD nor nVidia are responsible for their own processors either; since they are both fabbed by TSMC as well, which... undermines his entire argument. Whoops! 🤣 The sign of a true "genius" folks...

[M2026]

"The sign of a true "genius" folks..."
You proved your "brilliant" logic by not understanding my point about foreigners, because even an idiot would understand that :)))

"Intel delivered a good product"
Do you mean a 2-4% performance increase (CPU) compared to the previous generation? At this rate, only our future grandchildren will experience a doubling of performance.

[Choom]

It actually gets worse. Medusa point is actually halving the their RDNA3.5  CU count to make space for the increased CPU cores. Forget keeping the performance the same, AMD is reverting it the other way, they're going backwards..

So I guess z3 extreme will me slower than z2 extreme, if it is based on Medusa point?!? :3

Dear lord. AMD. Wtf are you doing?!?!?

People will literally jump ship to arm as an alternative if you gonks don't wake the duck up out of your Cyberpsychosis. It's no wonder valve is working with fex for x86 emulation on arm.

Our only hope left for improvements to igpu now, besides intel is arm as an alternative, with Snapdragon X2 elite and n1x. AMD full on vacation for the next 2 years. Possibly more. Lol, "steam deck 2 rumours" rip to that being AMD anymore too.

[AMD doing the right thing]

Choom, AMD buys silicon wafers from TSMC and where is the most money for any chip, cut out of such a wafer, right now? In enterprise/AI boom. So, AMD is doing what not only their share holders want them to do. It would be retarded to miss out on the money just to make some normie gamers happy and go bankrupt afterwards.
So, don't worry, at some point AMD will release a competitive 128-bit APU (once they sold enough AI chips and made enough money to then be able so afford TSMC' 3N node ;-)) See how it works.