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Started by Redaktion, August 16, 2025, 12:02:18

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M4M

M4PRO and M4MAX smokes this and its proven by the goldstandard FP Throughput Benchmark, C-RAY.
M4MAX is beyond any mobile chip and destroys the most powerful consumer DESKTOP CPU, 285K.
M4MAX completes C-RAY 2.0 5K in 116seconds, while M4PRO needs 143sec,
Fastest 285K needs 137sec. 9950X3D is nowhere near at 163sec best run.
C-RAY is the non biased most accurate version of CB R23, as it measures pure FP Throughput and before any r e t a r d shill says its memory bound, no its not.
Ray Casting(here 16rays per pixel) is pure SIMD FP + some integer math. Maxxing out the TDP, stressing the CPU more than R23 as the Power Consumption is Higher than in R23.

For M4PRO its 45w in R23, and 63.5W(presumably hardwired PL1 limit) in C-RAY 5K Image render.
M4MAX consumes about 81w on laptop due to throttle, in mac studio its higher.
Than again in R23 it is only about 50w for M4MAX.

Lets not talk about M4MAX GPU perf, as that would be a humiliation. M4MAX GPU surpasses 150w 4090M in DGEMM(Raw Performance predictor(just like C-RAY for CPU's)) and in other optimized benchmarks like GFXbench.

All in all for the price this AI MAX+ is a good trade but dont ever think it's faster than M4MAX or even M4PRO just because you all jerk off to a biased anti ARM benchmark called R23.
C-RAY has no SSE or AVX inline loops or Intel Embree unlike R23 which is full of garbage X86 intrins and base lib is Embree. CLOWN BENCHMARK.

C-RAY is compiled before able to run it and thus it runs native and utilizes every ability of the maschine on both sides. x86 and ARM


M4M

Quote from: Worgarthe on August 19, 2025, 00:38:24
Quote from: heffeque on August 19, 2025, 00:29:17
Quote from: beerkegbob on August 18, 2025, 16:17:21For $1400 or $1600 I could have a full size gaming desktop.
Why would i pay that for something that limits my options?
Why would I want a huge desktop PC when I can have a compact and efficient PC?

Repairability? Upgradability? Longer warranty on each component inside? Non-soldered RAM but instead upgradable up to 192 GB? Full control of any item inside? 9950X is faster than this CPU? It is also overclockable to squeeze even more performance? RTX 5070 Ti stomps this 8060S (exactly twice faster in benchmarks, much faster in games and it can run almost any game in ultra/maxed at 1440p at 165 Hz native without VRR, no need for upscaling either)? Quieter with better cooling (larger case, larger vents)? Fractal Terra is small and stylish case where everything mentioned can fit inside and aesthetically looks much nicer than this here?

All of that is exactly US$1618.02.

This one has LLM workload as its only advantage. Well unless you want to have as small as possible but no idea why that matters to such degree where 10 cm here and there plays any difference, unless you live in a 6 m2 apartment (six, yes).
This is a SoC for professionals, not clowns who game all day, are fat, weak, and ugly idiots who have the personality of a 5year old toddler.
Incels opinion dont matter, we alpha athletic charming leaders, managers, doctors, politicians dont hear your tiny pathetic Incel voice. You dont matter!

heffeque

Quote from: M4M on August 25, 2025, 12:08:28M4PRO and M4MAX smokes this

The M4 machines can't do audio-pass through, so no Atmos, no DTS:X, no go for me.

Quote from: M4M on Yesterday at 12:06:23This is a SoC for professionals, not clowns who game all day, are fat, weak, and ugly idiots who have the personality of a 5year old toddler.
Incels opinion dont matter, we alpha athletic charming leaders, managers, doctors, politicians dont hear your tiny pathetic Incel voice. You dont matter!

I beg to differ, I'm going to use my Framework Desktop as a silent but powerful home-cinema + gaming machine. I might play with AI a bit for fun.

You seem thoroughly invested in your mental image of who will be buying these PCs. It doesn't seem healthy.

I'd recommend that you get some fresh air, touch grass, meet some friends...

Hotz

Quote from: M4M on August 25, 2025, 12:08:28M4PRO and M4MAX smokes this and its proven by the goldstandard FP Throughput Benchmark
M4MAX is beyond any mobile chip and destroys the most powerful consumer DESKTOP CPU

Maybe, but the Apple-World is a very restrictive ecosystem, which is reason enough to avoid by most people.

Mike25

@M4M
"...we alpha athletic charming leaders, managers, doctors, politicians dont hear your tiny pathetic Incel voice. You dont matter!"

Well, your post is an "alpha pr.ck" post, that is for sure and with and with a 10% market share it's pretty hard to say that you matter :D:D:D

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