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New Windows 11 AI feature Recall runs on CPUs other than Snapdragon X series

Started by Redaktion, May 25, 2024, 16:24:24

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Redaktion

Microsoft has introduced a new range of Copilot Plus PCs powered by the Snapdragon X series processors. Thanks to the powerful NPU, these systems are directly compatible with many new Windows 11 AI features, including Recall. But it seems that you don't actually need a new ARM-based CPU from Qualcomm to run it.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/New-Windows-11-AI-feature-Recall-runs-on-CPUs-other-than-Snapdragon-X-series.841336.0.html

JUAN_pcbox

I think MINISFORUM V3 can be done quite well by AMD Zen 4 Hawk Point 8000 series
Currently, this three-in-one tablet far surpasses the Surface of 2024 and is having sales success around the world.
According to the comments in professional computer forums and videos on YouTube, its CPU + GPU + NPU are powerful enough to perform any function of the Copilot PCs with ARM, here AMD is far ahead of its rivals while waiting for the launch of Zen 2 and the new version of NPU XDNA 2 that they say is four times more powerful than Zen 4 Hawk Point

Swizzy

Quote from: JUAN_pcbox on May 25, 2024, 19:33:57I think MINISFORUM V3 can be done quite well by AMD Zen 4 Hawk Point 8000 series
Currently, this three-in-one tablet far surpasses the Surface of 2024 and is having sales success around the world.
According to the comments in professional computer forums and videos on YouTube, its CPU + GPU + NPU are powerful enough to perform any function of the Copilot PCs with ARM, here AMD is far ahead of its rivals while waiting for the launch of Zen 2 and the new version of NPU XDNA 2 that they say is four times more powerful than Zen 4 Hawk Point
If your Minisforum product was so good you wouldn't have to shill it at every opportunity. Give it a rest.

Hotz

QuoteAlbacore showed, you can enable the feature on processors that don't meet the 40 TOPS requirement.

... Of course ... not as smooth.... As you can guess, it's mainly because the ... processor doesn't have a powerful NPU to process the snapshots taken by the Windows 11 AI feature.


That exactly. That is the real reason why they introduced the NPU in processors: so the NPU can do that task (making screenshots every 5 seconds) in the background without interfering or slowing down other programs. That's the main reason.

Everything else (like using the NPU for AI related tasks on pictures, music, videos, gaming) is mostly an excuse. Although it theoretically can be used for that as well, it would also work with a simple AI software library, which uses the CPU or GPU for the calculations. There was never a need for NPUs on average PCs or for the average Joe. At least not for the next 5 years. For the few people who really need an NPU, extension cards could have been made.

Neenyah

Switched to Ubuntu (24.04) after a couple of years of not touching it (since they ditched Unity and switched to Gnome). Amazing distro, no integrated "AI" gimmicks and "AI" spyware, runs fast, cool and silent, better than Winjunk 11 in literally every existing regard except in gaming where they are equal (eGPU works equally good as in Win, not a single issue).

It also looks better aesthetically, font rendering is impeccable, and battery life is about the same.

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