Honor MagicBook Pro 16 2024 - A multimedia laptop with a 165 Hz IPS panel and RTX 4060

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i7-9750H, GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile
www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X1-Extreme-2019-Laptop-Review-The-second-generation-of-Lenovo-s-premier-multimedia-laptop-has-gotten-worse.453860.0.html#toc-6

i7-9850H, Quadro T1000 (Laptop)
www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-P1-2019-Laptop-Review-Slim-workstation-with-stronger-GPU-and-weaker-CPU.431265.0.html

[Neenyah]

check out configs they were reviewing, it's a paragraph from nbc article

Ah ok, ok, sorry, my bad. Wasn't paying attention as it was 5:40 am when I replied and I just got up so wasn't properly awake.

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Ah ok, ok, sorry, my bad. Wasn't paying attention as it was 5:40 am when I replied and I just got up so wasn't properly awake.

no problem

[hater]

quality

windowscentral.com/dell-xps-15-fhd-vs-4k

                XPS 15 (FHD+)   XPS 15 (UHD+)
Power draw   4.41W       10.4W

youtube.com/watch?v=PjiOlg0kRpo (Watch from 3:25)

reddit.com/r/DellXPS/comments/iiavpt/dell_xps_13_9300_4k_versus_hd_battery_life_results/

youtube.com/watch?v=s6ELgz0F9rQ (Watch from 11:10)

youtube.com/watch?v=a0ZvIOhCxrk (Watch from 6:30)

youtube.com/watch?v=-t6TUTYPuLs (Watch from 9:46)

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XPS 15 (FHD+)   XPS 15 (UHD+)
Power draw   4.41W       10.4W

second is touchscreen, what 'power draw' is is not specified (it is actually just a made up number as shown later), how many lamps and what kind of illumination panels have not specified.

reddit.com/r/DellXPS/comments/iiavpt/dell_xps_13_9300_4k_versus_hd_battery_life_results/

didn't watch the videos, watched this reddit link. it literally actually proves the opposite of what you think. 4K has x3.54 more pixes than HD+, nikob would say "gpu does 3.54 times more work" but power consumption is only 45% higher. or it would seem so, because we are not done.

let's see these two laptops in actual controlled review, not someone's "opinion"
www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-XPS-13-9300-4K-UHD-Laptop-Review-16-10-is-the-New-16-9.464337.0.html#toc-5
www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-XPS-13-9300-Core-i7-Laptop-Review-New-Chassis-Design-is-More-Exciting-than-the-New-CPU.458692.0.html#toc-1
same cpu, same gpu, same battery size, 4K has touchscreen
real battery life difference 12%, for screen with x3.54 more pixels and touch suppot
another proof that "4 more pixels = 4 times more work = 4 times more power consumption" isn't a thing

and keep in mind, it's a bad iris plus gpu that is maybe times weaker than modern igpus, for which desktop compositing is a free task nowaday. there's a recent video from Alex Ziskind that shows MBP GPU not giving a single f*** about up to 7 displays (only 4 or which are native), with 8K video running on two of then. It was even crunching AI bit faster with 7 displays, than it was with 1.

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intel macbook air 2017 i5 running windows 10 natively, idle
measured in hwinfo
800x600 avg GPU consumption 0.034w, avg gpu frequency 850.2MHz, avg gpu load 0.5%
1440x900 avg GPU consumption 0.034w, avg gpu frequency 870.9MHz, avg gpu load 0.5%

1440x900 has 2.7 times more pixels, 2017 igpu just adds 20Mhz and uses basically the same power for x2.7 more pixels
just another proof of the point that if your igpu is already on or at around its minimum frequencies (and it is always the case if your laptop was made by adequate people) in native res, going down in res almost does not affect energy consumption as your gpu just can't get any slower.

also yeah, how much were you going to same on milliWatts if you can just lower screen brightness and save Watts.

[NikoB]

It's funny, didn't the bots start howling with the idea that 4K consumes too much and people don't need it? Have you forgotten already? ))

I always wrote that high ppi is always better for the eyes.

Especially considering that font smoothing has been incorrect in Chrome and other browsers for many years, which is easily proven by screenshots.

[Neenyah]

It's funny, didn't the bots start howling with the idea that 4K consumes too much and people don't need it? Have you forgotten already? ))

It's funny, didn't you start howling with the idea that 4K panel when switched to FHD will consume much less? Oh wait, it really was you, how surprising (not at all). While reality is different than your theory...

I always wrote that high ppi is always better for the eyes.

Yeah, no one didn't know that without you saying that. True messiah for eyes of any living human.

Especially considering that font smoothing has been incorrect in Chrome and other browsers for many years, which is easily proven by screenshots.

Blablabla...

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True messiah for eyes of any living human.

at least now we know who taught steve jobs about retina

[Neenyah]

at least now we know who taught steve jobs about retina

True 😁

[hater]

idle

are most people using their laptops to idle at a desktop or watch a screensaver? why test at idle? not a realistic scenario imo. better to use battery runtimes of wifi web browsing tests.

how much were you going to same on milliWatts if you can just lower screen brightness and save Watts.

Depends on machine. On MBPs reducing brightness can gives up to double the battery but on the G14 2024 OLED it only gains +2 hrs (7 hrs on max brightness -> 9 hrs @ 150 nits) according to nbc's wifi web browsing tests.

proof that "4 more pixels = 4 times more work = 4 times more power consumption" isn't a thing

Nobody said this, but I do not consider a difference of 45% in power consumption to be trivial.

4K has touchscreen

True. 4k non-touch variants are not as common and probably does account for some additional power usage.

keep in mind, it's a bad iris plus gpu that is maybe times weaker than modern igpus

agreed.

That xps 13 9300 nbc link you gave is an interesting one. Quite a rare exception for 4k and fhd variants to be that close to one another.

Here is one where it is the complete opposite: notebookcheck.net/Power-hungry-display-Dell-XPS-13-4K-UHD-configurations-have-shorter-battery-life-by-several-hours.414493.0.html (Another 4k touch, I know)

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are most people using their laptops to idle at a desktop or watch a screensaver? why test at idle? not a realistic scenario imo. better to use battery runtimes of wifi web browsing tests.

i don't have a 100% standartized load test that i can 100% repeat, so i have to just use idle

Depends on machine. On MBPs reducing brightness can gives up to double the battery but on the G14 2024 OLED it only gains +2 hrs (7 hrs on max brightness -> 9 hrs @ 150 nits) according to nbc's wifi web browsing tests.

"only 2 hrs" is actually +29%

Nobody said this

nikob said this, that's why the whole conversation took place:

when running on battery power, you can switch to fhd@60Hz mode instead of 4k and dramatically increase battery life

it didn't pass reality check even with more difficult cases like external monitors and different panels

[NikoB]

Especially considering that font smoothing has been incorrect in Chrome and other browsers for many years, which is easily proven by screenshots.

Blablabla...

Moron, give me a screenshot of this stupid answer of yours at 400% magnification in Paint, taking a screenshot from Chrome and enlarging it by 400% and posting it on a file hosting service..

I'm sure there won't be a substantive answer, because you're 100% a moron, like Imao.

[Neenyah]

Turn off TrueType and enjoy your Minecraft-ish text then.

I'm sure there won't be a substantive answer,

Yes, there won't, because I'm not a retard (unlike you) to use my 1440p laptop or a 4K desktop magnified at 400%. Got one other 1440p monitor but that's exclusively for CS2 (because of 240 Hz) so whatever...

Edit: Hold up, even at 400% it looks clean and nice: https://imgur.com/mx24l3S

You enjoy your BITMAP image upscaling, lmao, while text is being vector. Funny how you suggest that but you call DLSS to be a scam.

[NikoB]

Hahaha, stupid Neenyah doesn't see the incorrect black and white anti-aliasing in his screenshots.

The question is, how many idiots on the planet don't see this, but normal people do too?

I asked this moron to post a screenshot enlarged by 400% in paint, but he didn't do it. But you can easily use his link to copy the image and paste it into paint, enlarge it 4 times and you will immediately see shadows around the letters, which should not exist with the correct black-and-white anti-aliasing method.

Q.E.D. =)

This 400% zoom in paint from fake "400%" from Neenyah - imgur.com/mx24l3S:
imgur.com/a/Sa8EVDg

Here is a screenshot 400% of the correct black and white anti-aliasing, already enlarged by 400% in paint:
imgur.com/a/2RmSTmd

Anyone who doesn't see the difference in how text is rendered and where it's correct is a pure test of a person's imbecility.