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Honor MagicBook Pro 16 2024 - A multimedia laptop with a 165 Hz IPS panel and RTX 4060

Started by Redaktion, March 02, 2024, 18:42:49

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Redaktion

Up to now, the MagicBook Pro 16 was known for being a multimedia computer, however, with its new 2024 version, Honor is bringing a powerful multimedia/gaming laptop to the marketplace. The device dazzles with features such as a 165 Hz IPS panel as well as Advanced Optimus. In our review, the computer impressed us, especially with its good cooling.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Honor-MagicBook-Pro-16-2024-A-multimedia-laptop-with-a-165-Hz-IPS-panel-and-RTX-4060.808536.0.html

Dother144

I think this laptop is quite interesting based on what was shown at MWC, and I've got even more interested after reading this review, but there's really a single M.2 SSD slot?

JUAN_pcbox

I would definitely never buy this Intel laptop.
IT DOES NOT HAVE (Wi-Fi 6E, Wi-Fi 7) incomprehensible
IT DOES NOT HAVE HDMI 2.1
LPDDR5-5600 very low instead of the 6000 of other laptops.
THE HDMI 2.0 outputs are only 4K at 60 Hz, I don't understand why HDMI 2.1 is not included
IPS screen without PWM incomprehensible and they all have LEDs
BAD location of USB ports at the back, annoying.
Impossible to buy this laptop and we still don't know its price.


lmao

why even discuss hdmi if there's thunderbolt 4 displayport
hdmi is a mostly a legacy port now, for hardware like projectors or tv output, so you don't have to bring converter if you are e.g. giving lectures

Neenyah

Quote from: lmao on March 03, 2024, 13:15:50are you some kind of llm trained on nikob's posts
JUAN_pcbox is julia_top, Enma45, Elias_40, ukinformatics and many other recently inactive names. And yes, it is literally a bot (like those random Reddit bots for example), but this comment about being trained on NikoB's posts has cracked me up 😂 It is most definitely true as its posts are more and more similar to Niko's.

NikoB


Again, Huawei is saving where it is not necessary or they simply do not have access to purchase fast LPDDR5 7500 memory. Compare with competitors. Although the difference in real speed is not so great (the efficiency of the 7500 even with the Ultra 9 185H is very low), but the memory latency is simply monstrous 140ns+ is no good, especially for the 5600.

Is there a second M.2 2242 port visible inside, next to the wired Wi-Fi? Why is it not listed by the author in the upgrade options? Although, of course, finding a decent 2242 is almost impossible.

The screen can be called sane, if not for the very low contrast of 1000:1. But again the question is - does Huawei now have access to more contrasting panels in bulk...
Didn't reach 95% AdobeRGB.

The keyboard is no good again - the numpad is completely damaged. It's better if the keys on it are slightly narrowed in width, but the classic numpad and the arrow block shifted downwards are like on Legion. There is room there for 16".

The processor, as expected, behaves better at 60W than competitors at a lower PL1, but this immediately leads to increased noise. Although of course 60W, it's still not 100+ as before. But Zen4+ would clearly be better here. As usual, AMD processors are either not yet produced in mass quantities, or AMD is deliberately holding them back for the sake of sales of old series.

The ports are poorly located - at least one USB-a is needed on the right. You can even have a hidden usb 2.0 port for a mouse transmitter, like in some Lenovo models. One USB-c/TB should be in the back, not on the side.

Again, in such a large case and a lot of empty space at the back and sides, not installing RJ45 at 5Gbps (at least the old 2.5) is pure redneck. This is always necessary for a stable network with minimal pings. And this is against the backdrop of shame with the morally outdated anachronism AX201 soldered 4 (!!!) years ago! Why didn't they solder the cheap BE200?! It retails for $23-25! And here you don't even need the full version, because... there is CNVi 3.0+.

The HDMI 2.0 port, which is morally outdated by 8(!) years, instead of the built-in HDMI 2.1/FRL6 in MeteorLake, is already an INTENTIONAL redneck from Huawei marketers; the engineers would not have done that.

In general, they could also solder DP2.0+/UHBR20. Moreover, they also jammed the second TB4 port...

And tell me, what's stopping them all from adding a second audio port on the right, symmetrically to the first? It's convenient for both right-handers and left-handers and you can quickly build a quad analog system with 4 speakers around it from literally anything.

Looking at this insanity in components and wiring of strange parts, one gets the impression that sanctions are still putting pressure on Huawei and their ability to select the necessary components is rapidly decreasing. Well, or this is pure redneck with cheap components.

In general, another strange Frankenstein from Huawei that is unlikely to be in demand both among gamers (the video card is morally outdated for the latest 2.5k games) and among those who take a universal laptop with maximum upgrade capabilities and a comfortable full-fledged keyboard with a full classic numpad.

Since you installed a cheap, outdated LPDDR5 5600, put it in the slots, and don't solder it.

It all depends on the price for someone to be interested in such a solution, but compared to the Legion lines, it still does not stand up to any criticism. Only if the price is significantly lower. Light weight is useless, without a power supply it still won't work for a long time, and at home silence with heavier radiators and large coolers is more important.

Huawei, like Lenovo, lacks an 18" line for the home - a workhorse without discrete data, but with a bunch of conveniently located latest ports, expansion slots inside (well, something like the Acer Aspire 5 2023 - 2xM.2 2280/2 x RAM slot), high-quality high-contrast IPS (1500:1+) 4k@120Hz 16:10 and a full keyboard with a full classic number pad, with good, elastic tactile feedback.And of course, on the latest chips from AMD.

Huawei could probably compete with the largest brands in the future, but its days are numbered in terms of access to Western components.

Neenyah

Honor is Huawei's "budget" line (like Redmi is Xiaomi's) so looking from that aspect this here is one mighty fine device for correct price. If they price it well this will sell easily because it looks great and yeah it's a plastic body but it also seems very solidly built (creaking is normal for large but thin plastic laptops, that's how plastic works; you get a bit of creaking but also a bit better chassis temperatures). So kudos on that.

The author complains about the touchpad but yeah, that's what you get with budget-oriented devices and cheap plastic touchpads. Glass one would be awesome for sure but without it there's always a pretty solid solution to put a sticker on top of it to improve gliding capabilities by a lot.

Laptop's included charger is comically large in size. Headphone jack is located on easily the dumbest possible location but at least it's not on the same spot on the right side. One USB port on the right would be nice to have but it's fine without anything considering that they are on the rear side. No complaints about anything else, very nice laptop overall. The screen is great, high resolution, fast, no PWM, bright and clearly visible outside so that fact makes me think that this won't be particularly cheap laptop, hm. We'll see.


Quote from: NikoB on March 03, 2024, 15:12:38Again, in such a large case and a lot of empty space at the back and sides, not installing RJ45 at 5Gbps (at least the old 2.5) is pure redneck. This is always necessary for a stable network with minimal pings.
Lol.

Quote from: NikoB on March 03, 2024, 15:12:38And this is against the backdrop of shame with the morally outdated anachronism AX201 soldered 4 (!!!) years ago!

The HDMI 2.0 port, which is morally outdated by 8(!) years, instead of the built-in HDMI 2.1/FRL6 in MeteorLake, is already an INTENTIONAL redneck from Huawei marketers; the engineers would not have done that.

In general, another strange Frankenstein from Huawei that is unlikely to be in demand both among gamers (the video card is morally outdated for the latest 2.5k games) and among those who take a universal laptop with maximum upgrade capabilities and a comfortable full-fledged keyboard with a full classic numpad.
Favourite nonsensical phrase?


Quote from: NikoB on March 03, 2024, 15:12:38(the video card is morally outdated for the latest 2.5k games)
Why do you want to play 2560x1600 on a 3072x1920 screen? What's wrong with 1536x960? I mean it's you who always everywhere claims how 4K screen is absolutely needed in laptops to work in 4K and play in FHD because of integer scaling where you get pixel-perfect and razor-sharp image at 4x lower resolution (but are refusing to show me 960x540 on your 1080p laptop). Let me quote you: "We work in 4K, we play in FHD." There you go, integer scaling is right here.

NikoB

Quote from: Neenyah on March 03, 2024, 16:15:21What's wrong with 1536x960?
Because it's stupid low resolution.

If you have a 4k screen, you can easily switch it to fhd resolution with ideal (sub)pixel sharpness and with a much smaller interpixel distance visible on the screen, because it is significantly less than on native fhd matrices. And this further improves the visual quality of the picture even in fhd mode on 4k panels.

It's a shame for the entire laptop industry that they don't have, without exception, in 2023-2024 only screens with a high pixel density - at least 220-230ppi. Only starting with such a density of dots, the text looks almost perfect even from 25-35cm. Like printed on a laser printer.

This is exactly what everyone needs. And you can play in fhd mode by switching 4k to this mode, because... they are perfectly compatible at the pixel level. Increasing fps immediately by 3-4 times.

lmao

Quote from: NikoB on March 04, 2024, 13:50:26text looks almost perfect even from 25-35cm
'25-35cm' is unhealthy lol
manufacturers consider everyone is a normal person looking at their laptop/desktop screen from around 51 cm away.
around 220ppi is enough

25cm -a default avg distance for phones screens - requires double than that, that's why phones have 450+ ppi

ppi is a misleading metric, proper screen-agnostic metric is 'pixels per degree in field of view', that has to be around 80-90 pixels for EVERY screen to be considered 'retina'

NikoB

arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/01/dells-new-ultrasharp-monitor-is-a-6k-powerhouse-for-pros/
QuoteDell's U3224KB is a 31.5-inch monitor with a 16:9 aspect ratio and 60 Hz refresh rate. When we saw it at a press event, a company spokesperson said the monitor's form factor is based on power users' preference for 220–260 pixels per inch (ppi) in high-end notebooks. Dell wanted to incorporate that same level of pixel density in a 32-inch-class screen, a popular size among its users.

Why do we need the opinion of an amateur Imao who has not written even 1000 lines of code in his life?

lmao

Quote from: NikoB on March 04, 2024, 18:07:32Why do we need the opinion of an amateur Imao who has not written even 1000 lines of code in his life?
exactly, your amateur opinion is not required, because it's as usual you vs. science

NikoB's Wife

Dear NikoB,

That's not a mobile device. High resolutions such as 4k and beyond absolutely murder battery life. For mobile devices, battery life is paramount.

Sincerely,
NikoB's Wife

P.S. I could not read your entire post as it was too long. Forgive me for this. In future, please try to convey your thoughts in a more concise manner. :)

NikoB's Imaginary Wife

Niko, these guys aren't worth your attention, they all are bad. You are the only one smart here.
Let's go darling, your dinner is ready.

Neenyah

Quote from: NikoB on March 04, 2024, 13:50:26
Quote from: Neenyah on March 03, 2024, 16:15:21What's wrong with 1536x960?
Because it's stupid low resolution.
It is 71.1% of FHD. Good enough for what you get with what you claim to be the case:

Quote from: NikoB on March 04, 2024, 13:50:26If you have a 4k screen, you can easily switch it to fhd resolution with ideal (sub)pixel sharpness and with a much smaller interpixel distance visible on the screen, because it is significantly less than on native fhd matrices. And this further improves the visual quality of the picture even in fhd mode on 4k panels.

This is exactly what everyone needs. And you can play in fhd mode by switching 4k to this mode, because... they are perfectly compatible at the pixel level. Increasing fps immediately by 3-4 times.

1536x960 on a 3072x1920 panel is identical as 1920x1080 on a 3840x2160 - 4 pixels are binned to 1, perfectly round numbers for nice and sharp picture in both cases as you claim. That's theory. The only problem is that they both look equally blurry if you do that in practice.


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