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Raptor Lake vs Zen 4 price war supposedly results in thinner retailer profit margins for Intel chips and horrible sales for AMD Zen 4 CPUs

Started by Redaktion, October 03, 2022, 12:30:18

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Redaktion

Intel launched the 13th gen Raptor Lake chips recently at prices that compete very favorably with the AMD Zen 4 CPUs. Serial leaker Tom from the Moore's Law is Dead YouTube channel alleges that the Raptor Lake CPUs have significantly reduced profit margins for the retailers than the Zen 4 chips, allowing Intel to price the processors as it did.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Raptor-Lake-vs-Zen-4-price-war-supposedly-results-in-thinner-retailer-profit-margins-for-Intel-chips-and-horrible-sales-for-AMD-Zen-4-CPUs.658572.0.html

Erik

Well, it's hard to comment on Raptor Lake's prices, but there's some limited evidence on Zen 4 coming from Mindfactory, sales for the 7600X are particularly poor at 70 with the CPU still in stock. Mind you, here in Europe the Zen 4 CPUs have become even more expensive because of the falling Euro exchange rate, so it's hard to say whether sales are similar in the US.

dubious

Weak Zen4 sales could have something to do with most people waiting for the b650e motherboards that don't cost eleventh hundred of your Earth credits?

Mr Majestyk

As along time AMD user AMD and more AMD MB makers, have priced themselves out of competition IMO. Zen 4 needs much better coolers, MB's even B650(E) are ridiculously overpriced, DDR5 is still too dear and AMD has no low end parts. I think they'll get crushed in sales. At least Intel users can use Raptor Lake in current Alder Lake MB's. AMD will have no choice but the cut pricing IMO and I'll bet they were shocked at the Raptor Lake prices given all the constant media headlines they were going up 15-20%. It may be enough for me to go Intel this time.

Daniel Shaver

Unfortunately, your paying the new platform tax for AMD this generation. Intel had the same problem when it changed to ddr4, new motherboards...

Motherboard manufactures seem to bring out their high priced, high profit boards first, followed by the bxxx chipset motherboards in a month or two.

So by next quarter prices and options should look more attractive.

CDUB

Yeah I don't believe those margins.

Retailers don't get out of bed for less than 30-40% margins per product, maybe slightly less for Digital only retailers but not by much.

They have insane overheads to manage, it literally wouldn't be worth their time or effort to range these items - they'd make a loss per product sold



Jacky L

Thats nonesense. Noone is dictating margins to retailers, they choose theirself. Our cpu margin is usually 11-12% for lowend skus, 9% for mid cpus and goes as low as 7% for gigher end cpus. Synced data (price/stock) daily from distributors, margin % is fixed once put in shop catalog.

PS: We do 40% only on cables, real hardwave 16% max on psus, to thats another nonesense

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