We go hands-on with the Framework Laptop 13 Pro and the improvements are night and day

[Redaktion]

The Laptop 13 Pro has improved all aspects of the original Laptop 13.5 especially in terms of chassis rigidity and battery life. However, the system will cost a pretty penny.

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[toto1234]

Almost twice as expensive as Apple Macbook Air M5

Are they serious ?

[heffeque]

It's expensive, but it's very useful for people who run Linux.

[GreenBeans]

Almost twice as expensive as Apple Macbook Air M5

Are they serious ?

The whole point being that you don't have to buy an entirely new laptop every few generations or when yours breaks. You'd only have to buy a new mainboard assuming you aren't changing storage, ram, chassis, etc.

Even though the ram/storage market is dog$#%@ right now, the pricing is still surprisingly better than Apple, who charges $400 for 16gb->32gb ram and $200 for 512gb->1tb storage. I know that Apple trade-in exists, but I've never owned a mac before, and I'd rather have the guarantee of owning and switching out the hardware.

Plus, you'd be paying for features like the 3:2 touchscreen display or manual off switches for the camera and microphone, not to mention ease of disassembly. Don't get me wrong, the M5 air is an excellent computer, but I'm willing to bet there are many like me who'd rather not enter Apple's walled garden.

[BakedBeansOnToast]

Almost twice as expensive as Apple Macbook Air M5

Are they serious ?

Almost every laptop is twice the price of that though.

Apple is pretty much the only OEM who can compete for ram contracts with AI data centre companies on an equal footing because they've the cash, unlike the rest of the other OEMs in the windows space.

The key is volume too. Apple orders memory in the 10-100 millions. A small company like framework is gonna be more like 10-100 thousands. So they'll always be at a disadvantage.

This is precisely why a lot of smaller businesses are going out of business atm and the exact same thing happened during COVID too.

[Phil995511]

Almost twice as expensive as Apple Macbook Air M5

Are they serious ?

With the same specs, in Europe they are 50% more expensive than Apple's M5.

Yeah, it's too expensive, they should lower their prices to attract more customers...

[anoop]

Perhaps they could offer a smaller battery as an option if that will save some weight and cost.