Intel Panther Lake with Arc B390 takes on AMD Ryzen Strix Halo and GeForce RTX 4050 in our first gaming benchmarks

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In video he says benchmarks in this video using 25W.

Thanks!

I see it now, @ 5:38. So, 25w Arc B390 is roughly equal to a low power rtx 4050 @ ~55w. Interesting..

Total system power is likely to be much higher. Hopefully, we will get this info as well soon.

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I still think it is irrelevant considering ram prices. Maybe next year ram prices will become sane and we can see how Medusa Halo does vs Nova Lake.

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desktop ai/llm sure the 8060S is the pick

Yes, Strix Halo wins, but it's also an unfair comparison:
Panther Lake (up to 96 or 128 GB RAM?): 153.6 GB/s = 128-bit * 9600 MT/s / 1000 / 8.
Strix Halo (up to 128 GB RAM): 256 GB/s = 256-bit * 8000 MT/s / 1000 / 8.

It looks like Panther Lake goes up to 96 GB, not 128 GB, RAM:

Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type)    96 GB
Memory Types    Up to LPDDR5X 9600 MT/s
Max # of Memory Channels    2

(both top comments) Someone asked the real question:

Why can't they have a low core count CPU but still keep the full iGPU?

Answer by another:

Upselling

So,

Total Cores    16
# of Performance-cores    4
# of Efficient-cores    8
# of Low Power Efficient-cores    4
Total Threads    16

is having all these cores really necessary for gaming? Maybe this is where INTEL could save on costs, and also, INTEL, stop upselling this iGPU, because if the APU is too expensive, people will simply get the 4050 Laptop instead.

PS: Suggestion: Unless you really need a gaming laptop (because you game when you travel, as one would have nothing better to do than gaming, when traveling, right?), one can build a desktop gaming PC for like half the price (or less), that is also still quite a bit faster (or much faster for the same price), which automatically makes it much more repairable and you can attach and, due to it being faster, actually utilize a 360 Hz (or more) QD-OLED monitor, too.

[Allegedly]

I still think it is irrelevant considering ram prices. Maybe next year ram prices will become sane and we can see how Medusa Halo does vs Nova Lake.

Retailers are already listing pre-order prices for Panther Lake laptops with Arc B390 and 32GB/1TB configs for $1299. Unless these are place holders waiting to be changed later, this already seems cheaper than strix point at launch, let alone anything strix halo.

Personally, I'm not expecting medusa halo to release until 2028 earliest. There's just no need for them to push or hurry when there's no one else really to compete with.

[A]

I still think it is irrelevant considering ram prices. Maybe next year ram prices will become sane and we can see how Medusa Halo does vs Nova Lake.

Retailers are already listing pre-order prices for Panther Lake laptops with Arc B390 and 32GB/1TB configs for $1299. Unless these are place holders waiting to be changed later, this already seems cheaper than strix point at launch, let alone anything strix halo.

Personally, I'm not expecting medusa halo to release until 2028 earliest. There's just no need for them to push or hurry when there's no one else really to compete with.

And we have seen retailers cancel orders one after the other, I'd like to see if they actually fulfill those orders.