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Eurocom Raptor X17 laptop review: The MSI and Asus ROG alternative

Started by Redaktion, May 19, 2023, 06:54:00

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Neenyah

To be so wrong about so many things but be so proud about it, impressive...

Quote from: NikoB on May 21, 2023, 17:50:32For accurate work with color, the screen is still not good - AdobeRGB coverage is only 85%, which is not enough.
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AdobeRGB is needed for professional print as it covers all CMYK gamut perfectly, 75% is enough to use, 85% definitely more than enough, and 90%+ is needed only for specific Pantones. But in that case one will use a professional monitor such as the BenQ SW321C which is, check this now...

Quote from: NikoB on May 21, 2023, 17:50:3216:9 is extremely inconvenient both for the office and for YouTube (the controls run into the picture) and for Photoshop, where professional cameras generally shoot at 3:2.
...16:9 monitor! And is the most widely used monitor in professional photo editing and graphic design waters. benq.com/en-us/monitor/professional/sw321c.html

Then we have the very close second professional grade monitor - Eizo ColorEdge CG319X - with 17:9 aspect ratio. So, by your own definition, this one is even more extremely inconvenient than 16:9 because, oh the horror, it is wider 😱

16:9 is inconvenient for Photoshop on small screens (under 14") with small resolutions and PPI under 150-ish. For everything else not a single sane person who uses it professionally is going to choose 16:10 over 16:9 or 21:9 (or 32:9) because it limits your usable area, as I demonstrated perfectly clearly before:
Quote from: Neenyah on May 20, 2023, 13:07:57All I can say is that Photoshop in 16:9 is far more usable than Photoshop in 16:10 (both same height, same scaling) 👉 imgur.com/X5XChaB
If NOT HAVING tools all over your image is what you call inconvenient then ok, that's just trolling.

Quote from: NikoB on May 21, 2023, 17:50:32For the debaters above about ppi - taking into account the fact that under Windows in the most popular Chrome browser, non-disabled muddy fonts since version 50 due to incorrect (and not eliminated for many years) black and white text smoothing, which introduces shadows around letters (and they should not be with the correct anti-aliasing version, as in Windows XP, for example), all people sitting at screens with ppi below about 220-230 spoil their eyesight in Chrome (under Linux, this incorrect anti-aliasing, as I was told, can be disabled with the command key line, but this key does not work in Windows), and these are almost all PC/laptop screens with rare exceptions. With what I "congratulate" the owners of these devices. I personally read texts only in Firefox, where incorrect anti-aliasing can at least be turned off.

Until all screens are at least 230 ppi, the problem of fuzzy fonts will haunt all browser users and especially Chrome.
Update your GPU drivers and stop using TN panel. 210 PPI here, text is perfectly sharp and definitely not fuzzy at all in Microsoft Edge. Confirmed with fully zooming in with a camera to the point of clearly seeing each pixel - absolutely nothing is fuzzy.

NikoB

Quote from: Neenyah on May 21, 2023, 21:43:10But in that case one will use a professional monitor such as the BenQ SW321C which is, check this now...
What do I care what some marketers call their series. ))

Quote from: Neenyah on May 21, 2023, 21:43:10For everything else not a single sane person who uses it professionally is going to choose 16:10 over 16:9 or 21:9 (or 32:9) because it limits your usable area, as I demonstrated perfectly clearly before
You are also illiterate and do not even know the level of elementary school arithmetic. 16:9 has a smaller screen area than 16:10 and even more so 3:2.

Quote from: Neenyah on May 21, 2023, 21:43:10If NOT HAVING tools all over your image is what you call inconvenient then ok, that's just trolling.
People like you don't need arguments. You still do not understand them, there is not enough education. Even school.

Quote from: Neenyah on May 21, 2023, 21:43:10210 PPI here
And again it is confirmed that you are an illiterate ignoramus.
The ppi of the laptop under discussion does not even reach 170.

Quote from: Neenyah on May 21, 2023, 21:43:10Update your GPU drivers and stop using TN panel.
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I can easily prove with 3 screenshots with a magnification of 400% that more than 90% of the world's population, owners of laptops and PCs with Windows 100% spoil their eyesight under browsers on the Chromium platform. Except for those using Firefox with anti-aliasing disabled or Linux+Chromium.

I have proven this on dozens of forums on the net. But judging by the reaction of the public, approximately 1-2% of the population really understands what is happening. The rest are just idiots.

In general, the level of commentators here, of course, only amuses me. Although this is not funny, but tragic, how many illiterate people there are on planet Earth. And as I noticed, new generations are getting dumber and dumber...

Neenyah

Quote from: NikoB on May 22, 2023, 11:16:01
Quote from: Neenyah on May 21, 2023, 21:43:10For everything else not a single sane person who uses it professionally is going to choose 16:10 over 16:9 or 21:9 (or 32:9) because it limits your usable area, as I demonstrated perfectly clearly before
You are also illiterate and do not even know the level of elementary school arithmetic. 16:9 has a smaller screen area than 16:10 and even more so 3:2.
Yes, sure it does in your own head with questionable school experience. But reality is truly different 👉👉 imgur.com/MGUuPpg

Quote from: NikoB on May 22, 2023, 11:16:01
Quote from: Neenyah on May 21, 2023, 21:43:10If NOT HAVING tools all over your image is what you call inconvenient then ok, that's just trolling.
People like you don't need arguments. You still do not understand them, there is not enough education. Even school.
Let's repeat that again, shall we? 👉👉 imgur.com/MGUuPpg

Quote from: NikoB on May 22, 2023, 11:16:01
Quote from: Neenyah on May 21, 2023, 21:43:10210 PPI here
And again it is confirmed that you are an illiterate ignoramus.
The ppi of the laptop under discussion does not even reach 170.
Says the guy perfectly incapable to read past its own words, but perfectly capable to start throwing childish insults in his own powerlessness to force his own views on everyone else 😂 Here, let me help you I will even underline it for you:

Quote from: Neenyah on May 21, 2023, 21:43:10on small screens (under 14") with small resolutions and PPI under 150-ish.

I legit wasn't aware that the laptop under discussion with its 17.3" screen is in fact smaller than 14". Today I learned, thank you my great sensei.


Quote from: NikoB on May 22, 2023, 11:16:01I can easily prove with 3 screenshots with a magnification of 400% that more than 90% of the world's population, owners of laptops and PCs with Windows 100% spoil their eyesight under browsers on the Chromium platform. Except for those using Firefox with anti-aliasing disabled or Linux+Chromium.

I have proven this on dozens of forums on the net. But judging by the reaction of the public, approximately 1-2% of the population really understands what is happening. The rest are just idiots.

In general, the level of commentators here, of course, only amuses me. Although this is not funny, but tragic, how many illiterate people there are on planet Earth. And as I noticed, new generations are getting dumber and dumber...
All you can prove that you can throw random insults at anyone who dares to not think wrongly like you, as proven nicely here, and that you have somewhere between zero and nothing clue about what you talk about (or that you have defective hardware, perhaps it's time to upgrade mate, hm?). Oh yeah, lol, you also somehow forgot to praise Apple's supremacy in this thread as you do in every other, and in your great NikoBdamus manner throw your prophecy about x86 being completely dead soon because of how magic Apple is.

And zo get back to the start of my comment, you know what they say about the third time being the charm... 👉👉 imgur.com/MGUuPpg

Cheers ✌

NikoB

Quote from: Neenyah on May 22, 2023, 12:11:53Yes, sure it does in your own head with questionable school experience. But reality is truly different
That more? 3840x2400 (16:10) or 3840x2160 (16:9)? I'm afraid for you this is an unsolvable arithmetic problem in your alternate reality.

You will have to prove that you have clear fonts in Chrome with screenshots at 400% magnification in paint.

I am waiting.

Otherwise, the argument is pointless with an opponent who does not even have a school level of arithmetic.

Neenyah

Quote from: NikoB on May 22, 2023, 14:06:05
Quote from: Neenyah on May 22, 2023, 12:11:53Yes, sure it does in your own head with questionable school experience. But reality is truly different
That more? 3840x2400 (16:10) or 3840x2160 (16:9)? I'm afraid for you this is an unsolvable arithmetic problem in your alternate reality.

I'm also afraid that you have certified inability to read anything but your own words. Here, from the previous page:



Quote from: Neenyah on May 20, 2023, 12:29:29...how can more width with the same or greater height be worse just because it's 16:9?

...

How can Acer Swift X SFX14-51G with 14" 16:10 2240x1400 be better than a random 14" 16:9 with 2560x1440 when that Acer has less pixels both vertically and horizontally (assuming same/similar panel quality)?

...

Or let's put it this way in following example; how can a laptop with

  • 2880x1800 16:10 screen

be better to use than a laptop with

  • 3200x1800 16:9 screen

? They both have almost the same screen size, they both have the same amount of vertical pixels but the latter has 320 more pixels horizontally, so why is it that bad to have more width?

Plus this:

Quote from: Neenyah on May 19, 2023, 23:49:43Same as I would always take 2560x1600 16:10 laptop over 2400x1600 3:2 laptop - same vertical, more horizontal. No one can tell me that 2400x1600 is better here because that makes no sense at all. But of course that 2400x1600 16:10 is better than 2560x1440 16:9.

Then again, 2880x1620 laptop with its "sh*t 16:9" is by clear logic better than a 3:2 2400x1600 laptop - it has more vertical and horizontal pixels.

👆

Quote from: NikoB on May 22, 2023, 14:06:05You will have to prove that you have clear fonts in Chrome with screenshots at 400% magnification in paint.

I am waiting.

Otherwise, the argument is pointless with an opponent who does not even have a school level of arithmetic.
Yes, because you proved that with your claims and nothing else, right? I don't use Chrome (as I said, but you can't read) but Microsoft Edge...

Quote from: Neenyah on May 21, 2023, 21:43:10...text is perfectly sharp and definitely not fuzzy at all in Microsoft Edge.

...so keep waiting I guess.

NikoB

Quote from: Neenyah on May 22, 2023, 14:14:07I don't use Chrome (as I said, but you can't read) but Microsoft Edge...
Edge=Chromium. I wait screenshot from Edge with at 400% magnification in paint. This page from NB. =)

Neenyah

Quote from: NikoB on May 22, 2023, 20:33:27
Quote from: Neenyah on May 22, 2023, 14:14:07I don't use Chrome (as I said, but you can't read) but Microsoft Edge...
Edge=Chromium. I wait screenshot from Edge with at 400% magnification in paint. This page from NB. =)
Nice way to dodge the whole discussion about different aspect ratios 😄
 
You said specifically Chrome (not Chromium-based). There, with included photo of laptop's screen from about 45 cm away watching distance: imgur.com/FJAg2tg

Neenyah

Quote from: Neenyah on May 22, 2023, 21:48:00You said specifically Chrome (not Chromium-based). There, with included photo of laptop's screen from about 45 cm away watching distance: imgur.com/FJAg2tg

Forgot to include this when uploading so I'll post the first one again for clarity:
  • imgur.com/Kw8Qbu8 (Scrot of Ps, 400%)
  • imgur.com/FJAg2tg
(210 PPI from ~45 cm watching distance)
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Neenyah

Now waiting for you to post text that looks like this (while still avoiding being wrong about aspect ratios): imgur.com/AHOKck2

🙃

NikoB

Quote from: Neenyah on May 22, 2023, 21:58:21...
Thank you. Now I see that I'm 100500 times right - people are so stupid on the planet that they don't see point-blank that they spoil their vision with blurry fonts - in your case it's not even black and white(greyscale), but in color, because of the terrible Clear Type enabled in OS. And this small number of advanced laymen and pros understand this. like me. It's amazing - point-blank not to see incorrect anti-aliasing! Kinda like with the Covid scam - most people are insane. =)

Well, I found out that even the readers of this site do not know school arithmetic. Another amazing discovery...

Neenyah

You literally have zero clue about what you talking about but are full of yourself to ever admit being wrong so all you can is to call everyone stupid/idiots/fools/retards and so on, no wonder you are a meme on most other tech sites like Techspot etc. 🥴

Why is this obvious troll allowed to keep trolling though? That's the question 🧐

NikoB

Because I'm right, and moderators and editors see this in your screenshots - clearly visible shadows around characters that should not be there with proper black and white or color anti-aliasing. As have the dozens of professional developers who have pointed these issues out to Google over the years in their bug tracker. It turns out that you are an insane troll (like the majority of the population), and not an adequate commentator, with a real understanding of something. You are extremely poorly educated and do not have the critical thinking to find facts.

But once again, thank you SO MUCH - you caught yourself by the hand. Demonstrated the level of technical illiteracy of the average man in the street once again.

NikoB

To console you, I give you a link to a screenshot of the correct black and white(greyscale) anti-aliasing in FF before version 69 (and in Chrome before version 50). And also how the text looks in the latest versions of FF without anti-aliasing. What to achieve under Chrome is impossible - there is no such switch:

imgur.com/a/Yxpvpzm

If you are not blind yet, you should already be aware of how spoiling your vision with ClearType (or without it but with incorrect modern greyscale anti-aliasing) and also the majority of the world's population when such a situation is deliberately created by the bastard developers of browsers based on Chromium.

Neenyah

Quote from: NikoB on May 23, 2023, 13:24:57...you caught yourself by the hand. Demonstrated the level of technical illiteracy of the average man in the street once again.
🤡 who claims that 2400x1600 3:2 is more (usable space) than 2880x1620 16:9 calls me technically illiterate? Really? Must be fun being in your head 😂 I won't even comment the rest of 💩 you are able to spam so fast because it makes no sense, lol.


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