I have a hard time imagining how to effectively write a massive amount of complex code on a 14" keyboard, except that it's a little and not difficult.
You'd better look at light weight 15.6-16" models with a full-fledged numpad (which can be used both as a numeric input field and as effective navigation/copy-paste and 2-hand blind input of basic operands, greatly increasing the input speed compared to 14" laptop keyboards ) with light weight and sufficient strength of the body. But if you are already accustomed to cropped 14" keyboards, then the choice is yours. I am practically not interested in the market for 12-14" laptops, except for key models at the time of updating the series, purely to assess the situation in general. Therefore, it's better to ask around for fans of 14" series on the forums.

And in 15.6+ there are enough options, but each has its own selection of key criteria. Formalize them and quickly find what you are looking for. Only you can know what is important to you.

Quote from: Amine on March 01, 2024, 17:40:14I need a budget laptop for programming and some light gaming so i prefer rayzen with a good keyboard and at least 14" screen, and portable too as I'm a student.
I'm considering thinkpad E14 gen 3 ryzen 5 5500u with 16gb ram. What do you think?

What is your budget? What's your location (continent)?

Quote from: NikoB on March 01, 2024, 18:20:41I have a hard time imagining how to effectively write a massive amount of complex code on a 14" keyboard, except that it's a little and not difficult.

easy lol

Quote from: NikoB on March 01, 2024, 18:20:41which can be used both as a numeric input field and as effective navigation/copy-paste and 2-hand blind input of basic operands, greatly increasing the input speed compared to 14" laptop keyboards

stop pretending to be a programmer, no one is working like that, it's awful for productivity and simply laughable lmao
in 2024 when even vim 'HJKL' navigation is becoming more and more popular and people are full-on 6x keyboards you think people really use numpad for copy/paste, navigation and "basic operands"

You've never written commercial code on a major project, so just shut the f*** up.

Quote from: NikoB on March 01, 2024, 19:23:45You've never written commercial code on a major project

except that's what i do for living lmao
so yeah, shut up and stop pretending

Only in your wet fantasies, otherwise you wouldn't write such nonsense.

Quote from: NikoB on March 01, 2024, 19:48:57Only in your wet fantasies, otherwise you wouldn't write such nonsense.

lmao yeah my fantasies are two huge projects i have opened in webstorm and rider right now.
stop pretending dude, every coder would see you are a fake from a mile away with your "numpad for code navigation and copy/paste" s*** lmao

Quote from: Neenyah on March 01, 2024, 18:25:25

Quote from: Amine on March 01, 2024, 17:40:14I need a budget laptop for programming and some light gaming so i prefer rayzen with a good keyboard and at least 14" screen, and portable too as I'm a student.
I'm considering thinkpad E14 gen 3 ryzen 5 5500u with 16gb ram. What do you think?

What is your budget? What's your location (continent)?

I'm in north Africa, I'm looking for used laptops, I don't know how much my budget is in dollars, these are the models i found it'll give you an idea about my budget:
Thinkpad e14 gen 3 ryzen 5 5500u 16gb.
Huawei d14 i5 10th mx250.

Quote from: Amine on March 01, 2024, 21:43:22

Quote from: Neenyah on March 01, 2024, 18:25:25

Quote from: Amine on March 01, 2024, 17:40:14I need a budget laptop for programming and some light gaming so i prefer rayzen with a good keyboard and at least 14" screen, and portable too as I'm a student.
I'm considering thinkpad E14 gen 3 ryzen 5 5500u with 16gb ram. What do you think?

What is your budget? What's your location (continent)?

I'm in north Africa, I'm looking for used laptops, I don't know how much my budget is in dollars, these are the models i found it'll give you an idea about my budget:
Thinkpad e14 gen 3 ryzen 5 5500u 16gb.
Huawei d14 i5 10th mx250.

The huawei is 8gb ram though

Quote from: Amine on March 01, 2024, 21:43:22I'm in north Africa, I'm looking for used laptops, I don't know how much my budget is in dollars, these are the models i found it'll give you an idea about my budget:
Thinkpad e14 gen 3 ryzen 5 5500u 16gb.
Huawei d14 i5 10th mx250.

I can't help with your market then sadly, sorry, I wanted to give exact links where to get and compare prices but in this case I'm unfamiliar with your region 😐 But between these two the E14 is superior in most things, starting with two important ones - expandable RAM (up to 40 GB with 8 soldered + 32 GB stick, officially tested just 8 soldered + 16 but 32 works 100% sure) and easily upgradable and replaceable screen/panel for one of much better quality (300 nits 100% sRGB). MX250 is a mini heater so I would completely avoid any laptop with that specific dGPU inside; if there was 4 GB VRAM then it would be worth it but with only 2... yeah, no thanks.

However though, if you can find the L14 Gen 3 in your budget with 5625U or PRO 5675U Ryzens you will be golden - two free RAM slots so you can slot in up to 64 GB RAM, 400 nits 100% sRGB upgrade option if you want (also very easy to replace it on your own), more ports and better battery life than the E14 G3. If not then the E14 G3 will be an easy choice for a good price.

Edit: Heh, I completely forgot to mention - the 5500U in the E14 is about twice faster in multi core and about 10% in single core performance over the i5 10210U in that Huawei laptop. It is also newer and it has better integrated graphics. Runs cooler, with less noise (the E14 G3 AMD has no fan noise at all actually) and gets much better battery. Really no contest there which one to pick 😀

Quote from: Neenyah on March 01, 2024, 22:25:37

Quote from: Amine on March 01, 2024, 21:43:22I'm in north Africa, I'm looking for used laptops, I don't know how much my budget is in dollars, these are the models i found it'll give you an idea about my budget:
Thinkpad e14 gen 3 ryzen 5 5500u 16gb.
Huawei d14 i5 10th mx250.

I can't help with your market then sadly, sorry, I wanted to give exact links where to get and compare prices but in this case I'm unfamiliar with your region 😐 But between these two the E14 is superior in most things, starting with two important ones - expandable RAM (up to 40 GB with 8 soldered + 32 GB stick, officially tested just 8 soldered + 16 but 32 works 100% sure) and easily upgradable and replaceable screen/panel for one of much better quality (300 nits 100% sRGB). MX250 is a mini heater so I would completely avoid any laptop with that specific dGPU inside; if there was 4 GB VRAM then it would be worth it but with only 2... yeah, no thanks.

However though, if you can find the L14 Gen 3 in your budget with 5625U or PRO 5675U Ryzens you will be golden - two free RAM slots so you can slot in up to 64 GB RAM, 400 nits 100% sRGB upgrade option if you want (also very easy to replace it on your own), more ports and better battery life than the E14 G3. If not then the E14 G3 will be an easy choice for a good price.

Edit: Heh, I completely forgot to mention - the 5500U in the E14 is about twice faster in multi core and about 10% in single core performance over the i5 10210U in that Huawei laptop. It is also newer and it has better integrated graphics. Runs cooler, with less noise (the E14 G3 AMD has no fan noise at all actually) and gets much better battery. Really no contest there which one to pick 😀

Thanks mate, really appreciated.

Quote from: NikoB on March 01, 2024, 19:23:45You've never written commercial code on a major project, so just shut the f*** up.

You can't afford a normal laptop and consider everything over 2K expensive, so you are not from IT industry.

Quote from: lmao on March 01, 2024, 19:52:57lmao yeah my fantasies are two huge projects i have opened in webstorm and rider right now.
stop pretending dude, every coder would see you are a fake from a mile away with your "numpad for code navigation and copy/paste" s*** lmao

Idiot, you've never written anything cooler than "hello world" in your life.

Quote from: Neenyah on March 01, 2024, 22:25:37Heh, I completely forgot to mention - the 5500U in the E14 is about twice faster in multi core and about 10% in single core performance over the i5 10210U in that Huawei laptop.

Yes, when such "specialists" "consult", those consulted can only cry over wasted money...

Quote from: Timmy! on March 02, 2024, 01:14:10

Quote from: NikoB on March 01, 2024, 19:23:45You've never written commercial code on a major project, so just shut the f*** up.

You can't afford a normal laptop and consider everything over 2K expensive, so you are not from IT industry.

yep, guy is a fake

The number of idiots is off the charts. Hahaha.

"Poor Things" perfectly describes what the new generations are like with a deliberately destroyed public education system. Adults with child brains.