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Title: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: Redaktion on July 16, 2019, 21:03:34
Lenovo currently has two variants of the ThinkPad E590 in its product range; both use Intel CPUs, but one has a dedicated AMD graphics card, while the other comes with integrated Intel UHD graphics. With the E595, Lenovo has now completely opted for AMD for the CPU and GPU. In addition, the manufacturer has improved on some points of criticism. Will the E595 become the best ThinkPad E?

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-E595-laptop-review-AMD-laptop-better-than-its-Intel-counterpart.427304.0.html
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: Wenchang on July 18, 2019, 05:55:30
Please do the gaming benchmarks with dual channel ram as well, since the E595 have 2 RAM slots, like thew E585. Thanks!
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: NikoB on July 20, 2019, 21:05:32
Dear notebookcheck!  This is again a bad test!

This laptop does not have HDMI 1.4b, but 100% have HDMI 2.0b with HDR suypport, becuase inside Ryzen with VEGA graphics, natively support 2.0b!

Thus, this laptop, unlike the shameful version with Intel CPU, is capable of displaying a picture simultaneously on two external monitors in 4k@60Hz mode and is capable of transmitting video with HDR to TV/projectors/monitors with HDR support!

It changes everything! Versions with Intel CPU are shameful and not worth the money!
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: NikoB on July 20, 2019, 21:14:24
usb-c for E580/590/595 output 4k@60Hz with this adapter+power AC in, it tested and work perfectly:

"Original Xiaomi PD 3.0 Macbook USB-C to Mini Displayport Multifunction Adapter."

look for him on Ali or Ebay, it costs $25-30.
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: NikoB on July 20, 2019, 21:45:11
Quote16384 MB
, 1 Slot, DDR4 2666, no empty slots
It not true! PSREF declared 2 DIMM slots and one dimm installed (16Gb DDR4 2666) according psref for 20NF0000GE.
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: Tabcin on July 21, 2019, 18:26:07
Quote from: NikoB on July 20, 2019, 21:05:32
Dear notebookcheck!  This is again a bad test!

This laptop does not have HDMI 1.4b, but 100% have HDMI 2.0b with HDR suypport, becuase inside Ryzen with VEGA graphics, natively support 2.0b!

Thus, this laptop, unlike the shameful version with Intel CPU, is capable of displaying a picture simultaneously on two external monitors in 4k@60Hz mode and is capable of transmitting video with HDR to TV/projectors/monitors with HDR support!

It changes everything! Versions with Intel CPU are shameful and not worth the money!

It seems like you have USB-C Dock station + 2 external monitors. That is use case i'm most intrested in. Is integrated monitor stil working when you have external monitors connected (you get 2+1 screens), or you need to disable / mirror integrated screen when using two external screens (you get 2+0/Mirror screen) ?
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: spuddster on July 21, 2019, 22:59:09
Pretty sure you compared the standard setup (E595 with single channel RAM and HP 14 with dual channel RAM) - hence the weaker GPU performance on the E595. So with a dual channel setup, the E595 with its well-tuned CPU should beat the HP 14 in overall performance.
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: Andreas Osthoff on July 22, 2019, 12:27:24
Hi, we made a mistake with the RAM specs. The ThinkPad E595 has two memory slots and can support up to 64 GB RAM. It is therefore pretty easy to upgrade the RAM if you want to utilize the full potential of the iGPU.

Yes, we usually compare the laptops as we get them (and also as the customers will do), so there can be differences when it comes to the GPU performance for Vega iGPUs. It is unfortunate that some manufacturers like Lenovo do not ship their AMD systems with dual-channel memory configurations by default, so every user could benefit from the improved performance.
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: tp_noob on July 26, 2019, 01:27:49
So I just got my E595 a coupe of days ago though in the 3500U version.
8GB RAM, RTL8822BE wifi card, 256GB SSD
I haven't owned a Thinkpad before but so far, it's proven to be better than I expected!

Some drawbacks which caught me offguard:

1. After using the laptop for a couple of hours and not noticing it, I then moved closer to the laptop and heard coil whine-like noises on the upper left part, not sure which component is producing it though. But when I added a 500GB HDD to it, it all suddenly stopped, no more coil-whine! I then tried to put the HDD into standby and suddenly the coil-whine noises came back again.

So my take: Apparently, the current or voltage balance on the board is off without an HDD attached. Even just putting the HDD into standby will make the noise come back - you need that extra drainer to balance it out.

2. The heat development near the hinges and backside where the CPU is located is quite significant, much more than my older laptop which got an Intel i7 and a dedicated GPU. It makes working in summer a bit more difficult.

3. The fan turns on more frequently the longer you work on the laptop since the heat builds up and cools down slowly. Heat dissappation of the E595 after shutdown is also a bit slower than what I experienced with other laptops.

4. I swapped out the RTL8822BE card with the Intel AC 9260 one. It was cheap and a lot of people complained about the Realtek card not working properly or being slow. Lenovo does whitelisting but the Intel one is compatible with the E595.
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: tabcin on September 06, 2019, 20:33:57
Just like tp_noob i bought e595 with ryzen 5 - 3500U.

I've expanded RAM to 32 GB Kingston hyperx 2666 MHz (that's slight overkill - cpu use only 2400 MHz) and launched passmark before and after memory upgrade.
PASSMARK(TOTAL); CPU MARK; 2D MARK; 3D MARK; MEMORY MARK;
Single channel results: (2798;7954;463;1231;1385;10359)
Dual channel results: (3245;9165;465;2036;1679;10560)

That's 68% of additional 3D performance on dual channel for 3500U. In 3700U diffrence should be even biger.

Coil whine-like noise - I have only NVME drive but i haven't heard anythink like that. Maybe i'm deaf ;)

Heat development - true. It won't burn you instantly but you defienietly don't want to keep it under full load on top of your lap for a long time.

Under normal load e595 is comfortably cool.

Overall - i'm happy with purchuase.
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: TJ van Muyden on September 16, 2019, 20:41:11
Comparing Apples to Pears is not useful.  Put Dual Channel Ram in it and redo your tests.
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: keksz on October 05, 2019, 09:28:09
Quote from: tabcin on September 06, 2019, 20:33:57
Just like tp_noob i bought e595 with ryzen 5 - 3500U.

I've expanded RAM to 32 GB Kingston hyperx 2666 MHz (that's slight overkill - cpu use only 2400 MHz) and launched passmark before and after memory upgrade.
PASSMARK(TOTAL); CPU MARK; 2D MARK; 3D MARK; MEMORY MARK;
Single channel results: (2798;7954;463;1231;1385;10359)
Dual channel results: (3245;9165;465;2036;1679;10560)

That's 68% of additional 3D performance on dual channel for 3500U. In 3700U diffrence should be even biger.

Coil whine-like noise - I have only NVME drive but i haven't heard anythink like that. Maybe i'm deaf ;)

Heat development - true. It won't burn you instantly but you defienietly don't want to keep it under full load on top of your lap for a long time.

Under normal load e595 is comfortably cool.

Overall - i'm happy with purchuase.
Hi,

did it have 16 GB Kingston hyperx as stock in it or you replaced everything and put in 2 new 16 GB Kingston hyperx?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: tabcin on October 05, 2019, 13:15:37
Quote from: keksz on October 05, 2019, 09:28:09
Hi,

did it have 16 GB Kingston hyperx as stock in it or you replaced everything and put in 2 new 16 GB Kingston hyperx?

Thanks!

I've ordered cheapest 8 GB model and it came with single 8 GB SAMSUNG 2666MHz module.
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: keksz on October 05, 2019, 20:54:11
Thanks, but how have you ended up at 32 GB?
So the 2 RAM modules doesn't have to be the same brand/type?
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: R7ex on October 10, 2019, 05:17:52
Why did Lenovo website state 1.75 kg while this tested laptop weigh in at 1.94 kg?

That's hell'va far from advertised numbers. :(
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: d3v on November 21, 2019, 09:51:59
Can you compare it with HP PROBOOK 445R G6. I am confused on which one to buy.
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: lapaz17 on December 25, 2019, 08:02:32
Can  this laptop support Samsung 32GB DDR4 2666MHz RAM Memory Module for Laptop Computers (260 Pin SODIMM, 1.2V) M471A4G43MB1 32 gb ram?
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: lapaz17 on December 25, 2019, 08:03:55
Quote from: Andreas Osthoff on July 22, 2019, 12:27:24
Hi, we made a mistake with the RAM specs. The ThinkPad E595 has two memory slots and can support up to 64 GB RAM. It is therefore pretty easy to upgrade the RAM if you want to utilize the full potential of the iGPU.

Yes, we usually compare the laptops as we get them (and also as the customers will do), so there can be differences when it comes to the GPU performance for Vega iGPUs. It is unfortunate that some manufacturers like Lenovo do not ship their AMD systems with dual-channel memory configurations by default, so every user could benefit from the improved performance.
You made the test with Samsung 32GB DDR4 2666MHz RAM Memory Module for Laptop Computers (260 Pin SODIMM, 1.2V) M471A4G43MB1?
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: lior on May 12, 2020, 11:53:49
hi,
thank you for your review.
i am considering buying thinkpad e595 for home use. for my needs the amd 3500 with vega 8 is enough. you have reviewed the amd  3700. will the graphic card vega 8 or the other configurations will  have any influence on the display quality such as brightness or color coverage.
thank you
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: Thomas B. on July 04, 2020, 21:41:23
Would be a nice choice for editing (not too heavy) compared to other ryzen 7?
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad E595 laptop review: AMD laptop better than its Intel counterpart?
Post by: Jennings on September 16, 2020, 19:37:33
So this can support 64gb, I've read elsewhere only 32gb?