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Title: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: Redaktion on June 12, 2018, 13:30:06
On the fast lane. Dell's XPS 15 has entered a new year and we have begun by testing the entry-level model. Will the 15-inch device continue to throttle? What battery runtimes can the 97-Wh battery offer? Does the Core i5 offer sufficient performance?

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-XPS-15-2018-9570-8300H-GTX-1050-97Wh-Laptop-Review.308420.0.html
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: Lucas on June 12, 2018, 20:36:21
According to the USA website the configuration with the i5 only has the intel HD GPU.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: mark235 on June 13, 2018, 09:49:16
Shouldn't the screen bleeding be added to the list of cons? It's listed as a con for many (most?) other laptop reviews on this site. 

Also, while the display reponse times have been improved compared to the previous model, they still aren't good for gaming. Given that this is a multimedia / gaming laptop, Shouldn't that be listed as a con? The (minor) improvement is nice, but the end result is stil lacking.

The XPS 15 keeps getting better and better with every new release, which is great. But this 92% score seems a little biased or inflated. 
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: Abel Goldblum on June 13, 2018, 17:55:47
Dell's latest aptops seem pretty nice and attractive. However coil whine plagues the XPS series. For this reason alone I wouldn't buy a Dell these days. They really need to get their act together and fix the coil whines.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: skype user on June 14, 2018, 02:43:17
Thanks for the review. Shouldn't the 'nosecam' be listed as a con?
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: tomhw on June 14, 2018, 23:43:37
Courtesy of Generic Log Viewer images are very intuitive and visual friendly for understanding. Hope to see more of them in future reviews.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: Kevin Shroff on June 20, 2018, 12:38:18
I strongly trust notebookcheck reviews however this review of the XPS 15 9570 FHD with i5 seems a little too good to be true when concerned with its battery life.

Quote: "The runtime on battery is one of the best that an XPS 15 has ever offered in our tests: The lights only go out after 15:42 hours in our Wi-Fi test at 150 cd/m² (dimmed by 6 levels, Dell energy profile set to "quiet"). We ran the test a second time, which confirmed this result."

Almost 16 hours of light Wi-Fi usage battery life on the FHD i5 model seems incredible to me, however what specifically has changed from the 9560 that made the 9570 so much more frugal? The exact FHD panel (Sharp SHP1453 LQ156M1, as notebookcheck said was in their reviewed model) has been in use in the 9550 and 9560 FHD models already, so this isn't some new more power efficient display. Then the next part, the CPU, should by all means be on par with, if not consume slightly more power on average than the i7 7th gen CPUs, as the 8th gen CPUs have 2 extra cores, and this has been proven with other 7th gen laptops that have been refreshed with 8th gen parts - they all show similarly slightly increased power consumption on average.

Additionally, I haven't yet found another source to backup notebookcheck's 15 hour (Wi-Fi browsing) light usage battery life, with all other reviews showing battery life of the FHD i5 9570 as being in the same ballpark as last year's FHD i5 9560.

So yet again, this comes back to my main question - is the 9570 actually more frugal, and if so, how and what exactly has caused this significant improvement in battery life? Or otherwise, is this a mess up on notebookcheck's end?

Thanks
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: NikoB on June 20, 2018, 15:32:42
Two bad main news for potential buyers:
1. Not flicker free IPS. The eyes will burn, and the head will ache after a few hours of work after this. "Sand" in the eyes is guaranteed, despite the outstanding brightness and color rendition. How they managed to so badly program the PWM on the matrix, it is unclear. The HP G5 850 is much better for people who value their health, eyes and performance when printing large amounts of complex text.

2. A truncated version of the keyboard, which does not allow to work normally and faster. Especially for developers in IT. What prevented to put a full-size with a digital block is unclear...

The third bad news is that it's even surfing under several tabs with multimedia apparently noisy. For some reason, there was no typical graph of the performance drop and the established, time-dependent load.

In this machine it would be much better to include a new i5 8269U, which roughly corresponds to the i7 7700HQ by perfomance, while consuming together with the more advanced Iris graphics only 28W, instead of 45W for 8300H, which would allow the noise to be abruptly dropped under load, almost without losing performance. And while the 8269U is only +$73 more expensive than the cheap i5 8300H, which in this class of laptops is not essential. But then again, it looks like the most delicious U series processors will only get Apple...

Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: antarctica0 on June 20, 2018, 21:05:03
It looks like the i5-8300H model is not available in the US store with a 97 WH battery, which is unfortunate because it seems like a great compromise between performance and heat. I guess I will have to wait to see how well the i7 6 core model does with heat.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: devx on June 21, 2018, 19:56:59
Great multi purpose laptop.

Quote from: NikoB on June 20, 2018, 15:32:42
Two bad main news for potential buyers:
1. Not flicker free IPS. The eyes will burn, and the head will ache after a few hours of work after this. "Sand" in the eyes is guaranteed, despite the outstanding brightness and color rendition. How they managed to so badly program the PWM on the matrix, it is unclear. The HP G5 850 is much better for people who value their health, eyes and performance when printing large amounts of complex text.
PWM below 10% is same as no PWM at all.
And i suggest you look for some fresh Lenovo reviews for real example of "badly program the PWM".

Quote from: NikoB on June 20, 2018, 15:32:42
2. A truncated version of the keyboard, which does not allow to work normally and faster. Especially for developers in IT. What prevented to put a full-size with a digital block is unclear...
What planet are you from?

Quote from: NikoB on June 20, 2018, 15:32:42
In this machine it would be much better to include a new i5 8269U, which roughly corresponds to the i7 7700HQ by perfomance, while consuming together with the more advanced Iris graphics only 28W, instead of 45W for 8300H, which would allow the noise to be abruptly dropped under load, almost without losing performance. And while the 8269U is only +$73 more expensive than the cheap i5 8300H, which in this class of laptops is not essential. But then again, it looks like the most delicious U series processors will only get Apple...
Nothing U-like is like HQ series. Not even close. Even with cooling pad and Intel XTU, ThrottleStop etc workarounds.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: Bob on June 29, 2018, 19:34:24
Hello,

Can we change the RAM Memory please? It's 8 Go Ram on standard, is it possible to increase to 16Go Ram please ?

Thanks you :)
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: AdrianzkaMDR on July 01, 2018, 06:45:41
Quote from: Kevin Shroff on June 20, 2018, 12:38:18
I strongly trust notebookcheck reviews however this review of the XPS 15 9570 FHD with i5 seems a little too good to be true when concerned with its battery life.

Quote: "The runtime on battery is one of the best that an XPS 15 has ever offered in our tests: The lights only go out after 15:42 hours in our Wi-Fi test at 150 cd/m² (dimmed by 6 levels, Dell energy profile set to "quiet"). We ran the test a second time, which confirmed this result."

Almost 16 hours of light Wi-Fi usage battery life on the FHD i5 model seems incredible to me, however what specifically has changed from the 9560 that made the 9570 so much more frugal? The exact FHD panel (Sharp SHP1453 LQ156M1, as notebookcheck said was in their reviewed model) has been in use in the 9550 and 9560 FHD models already, so this isn't some new more power efficient display. Then the next part, the CPU, should by all means be on par with, if not consume slightly more power on average than the i7 7th gen CPUs, as the 8th gen CPUs have 2 extra cores, and this has been proven with other 7th gen laptops that have been refreshed with 8th gen parts - they all show similarly slightly increased power consumption on average.

Additionally, I haven't yet found another source to backup notebookcheck's 15 hour (Wi-Fi browsing) light usage battery life, with all other reviews showing battery life of the FHD i5 9570 as being in the same ballpark as last year's FHD i5 9560.

So yet again, this comes back to my main question - is the 9570 actually more frugal, and if so, how and what exactly has caused this significant improvement in battery life? Or otherwise, is this a mess up on notebookcheck's end?

Thanks


The unit reviewed by notebookcheck comes with a 97 Whr battery, as opposed to the 56 Whr one on last year's i5 FHD model. However, it seems that the i5 FHD version only comes to the US with the 56 Whr battery, which might explain why other reviews find the battery life performance to be the same. (It can be seen that load battery runtime in this review is similar to the old one since the latter does not have dedicated graphics)
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: Saran on July 03, 2018, 18:19:35
I want to buy XPS 15 9570 i5,GTX 1050
From USA 
But I want the link to buy i request anyone to send me that link
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: Ice on July 08, 2018, 13:11:41
in the last 3 years to this time i have use XPS 9550 4K, Precision 5510 4K and Precision 5520 FHD,I do not understand one thing why here in these review Notebookcheck not tell people that its not possible to use this Notebook in the night because dispaly on zero brightnes too much dimming, brightness is so hight and unpleasant to watch is this display and eyes is so tired after 30 min. with this laptop,,, i have no sensitiv eyes and without problem,,  Notebookcheck you must testing and real use on a laptop,, is not only contrsat, sRGB, maximum brightnes and other things...
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: JohnLG on July 09, 2018, 14:41:18
Hello,
When will you review XPS 15 with the Core i7/i9 & GTX 1050 Ti ?  :D
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: Timmy.G on July 12, 2018, 08:42:31
Hello,
When will you review XPS 15 with the Core i7/i9 & GTX 1050 Ti ?  :D
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: Robert on July 15, 2018, 15:26:30
Great review! When are you posting the i7 review incl. the GTX1050ti?
This review was written over a month ago and back then you already received the new laptop. Unfortunately, nothing about the 9570 i7 1050ti is mentioned under the "upcoming reviews" section either :-(
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: Sergei on July 20, 2018, 19:14:50
I do not think that 9570 is a blunt improvement as compared to its predecessors. The design and look feel of the laptop is identical. Plus there is no cam shutter option. Nowadays companies like Lenovo are taking steps to ensure the safety and privacy of the user by providing secret camera positions.  ???

Anyways, great review team! Keep it up 8)

Thanks, Sergei
lastlaptop.com
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: Matt K on July 22, 2018, 00:54:37
The closest battery life comparison to the 2018 UHD model seems to be last years review of the 9560 UHD, i7.  However, the browsing score is a dismal 434 minutes on that 2017 model, which seems extreme compared to the measured browsing test battery life of 900+ minutes in this current review
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: RayP on August 16, 2018, 11:11:57
Acer UK have ceased supplying batteries for my 5 year-old Travelmate and my existing battery won't charge any more so it will soon be mains only.

Because of this I'm looking at the XPS 15 and it looks great. But I'm concerned about battery replacement as it doesn't appear the user can change this themselves. Is that the case and how long would Dell stock replacements for? Would I have to send it back to Dell UK for a battery replacement when the time comes?
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: s-plus on August 28, 2018, 08:35:06
When are you going to publish the XPS 15 4K i7 review???
Is there any reason you're not reviewing it?
This is one of the best laptops in 2018, and certainly deserves the best review from the best laptop reviewing site!
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: AliceN on December 20, 2018, 03:50:17
Any news on i7 with GTX1050 Ti?

As well, so basically for color correction XPS 15 with FHD beats new MSI p65 creator (basic model, with regular IPS, without 144 refresh rate (though, according to the tests even that fancy one too), right?
Title: Re: Dell XPS 15 2018 9570 (8300H, GTX 1050, 97Wh) Laptop Review
Post by: Pan D on March 21, 2019, 14:15:42
Recently I just picked up XPS15 9570, exactly the same configuration with this review.
I use 960fps slow-mo to verify that PWM occurs at least below 25% , not 10 as reported.