It's been almost five months since the official reveal of Kaby Lake-G and there is only one manufacturer other than Intel currently shipping a Kaby Lake-G product. We put the pieces together to find out why there are so few of these systems in the market and why most manufacturers are staying silent on the matter.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Where-are-all-the-Kaby-Lake-G-laptops-Nvidia-s-GeForce-Partner-Program-may-be-to-blame.300748.0.html
This is sad. I like Kaby Lake G for people like me, who do need some graphical muscle, but not a GTX 1060 or 1070. I'm very disappointed in OEMs for catering to NVIDIA's bullshit.
Dirty Nvidia. I think I'll buy one of these Kaby Lake G systems and not buying any of their GPU-based products. Benchmarks for the Kaby Lake G's are impressive.
Is there nothing we can do as consumers? Is the GPU competition lost forever? Nvidia jas gone lazy and instrad of making new products they're just avoiding the competition. To be honest though, I didin't expect anything else.
Quote from: Kian on April 24, 2018, 08:53:58
Is there nothing we can do as consumers? Is the GPU competition lost forever? Nvidia jas gone lazy and instrad of making new products they're just avoiding the competition. To be honest though, I didin't expect anything else.
Vote with your wallet and don't buy Nvidia, even when they are at a better price/performance point or when they get put in the more appealing laptops. They get away with this because people still buy their products, despite their behaviour.
Quote from: wvdschel on April 24, 2018, 10:04:15
Quote from: Kian on April 24, 2018, 08:53:58
Is there nothing we can do as consumers? Is the GPU competition lost forever? Nvidia jas gone lazy and instrad of making new products they're just avoiding the competition. To be honest though, I didin't expect anything else.
Vote with your wallet and don't buy Nvidia, even when they are at a better price/performance point or when they get put in the more appealing laptops. They get away with this because people still buy their products, despite their behaviour.
Personally I do not trust AMD for driver updates, especially when it comes to such bold innovative projects. I hope it proves a success, but as a gamer, I would stick to Nvidia as they offer more in terms of long lasting support.
Actually AMD has had superior drivers than Nvidia ever since Relive last year.
People just have the whole stupid mindshare thing.
I mean Nvidia once released drivers that literally causes the graphic chips to melt down, these no screw up as big as that Nvidia self destruct driver, but clueless users will choose to forget that.
www.destructoid.com/don-t-install-the-newest-nvidia-driver-it-s-breaking-pcs-347362.phtml
Furtuermore Nvidia ships spyware with enforced telemetry on all their drivers now, and requires unique account just to use any of the GeForce shixperience utilities.
Since using 8600m GT with XPS 1530 I've never had any problems with drivers and didn't have to install custom ones to be up-to-date. Keep in mind that we are talking with laptops here and an Intel - AMD collaboration, so that may be even more short lived. It's just my concerns that gamers won't be able to user their laptops to play new games due to driver incompatibility issues.
If AMD really has good driver support now that's very good to hear, but like I said, I've had bad experiences.
Nvidia's Linux support is total crap. AMD is ages ahead there.
for those of you worried about kaby lake G drivers, for starters AMD has actually very good drivers, but even if they didnt, intel is the one who is responsible for the drivers, they may use the amd base drivers, but they will edit it as kaby lake-G is an intel product, it has a custom VEGA but it is an intel product, ergo intel is the one shipping drivers
It is totally unacceptable as a consumer. Intel please please reject all the manufacturers computers with NVIDIA GPU. Make it illegal people put NVIDIA GPU and Intel CPU together into a computer. EYE TO EYE!
Quote from: wvdschel on April 24, 2018, 10:04:15
Quote from: Kian on April 24, 2018, 08:53:58
Is there nothing we can do as consumers? Is the GPU competition lost forever? Nvidia jas gone lazy and instrad of making new products they're just avoiding the competition. To be honest though, I didin't expect anything else.
Vote with your wallet and don't buy Nvidia, even when they are at a better price/performance point or when they get put in the more appealing laptops. They get away with this because people still buy their products, despite their behaviour.
But this is exactly the reason Nvidia introduced GPP. AMD mindshare buying only AMD no matter what and that's anti competitive move by customers.
Quote from: Pewzor on April 24, 2018, 11:28:01
Actually AMD has had superior drivers than Nvidia ever since Relive last year.
People just have the whole stupid mindshare thing.
I mean Nvidia once released drivers that literally causes the graphic chips to melt down, these no screw up as big as that Nvidia self destruct driver, but clueless users will choose to forget that.
www.destructoid.com/don-t-install-the-newest-nvidia-driver-it-s-breaking-pcs-347362.phtml
Furtuermore Nvidia ships spyware with enforced telemetry on all their drivers now, and requires unique account just to use any of the GeForce shixperience utilities.
Are you claiming AMD never released drivers who burned GPUs? Worse than that AMD released Polaris GPU which literally melted motherboards.
About Geforce Experience. Have you deleted your Facebook account after latest scandal or kept it to bash and spread anti Nvidia propaganda?
ok now go and get your own news and ask each company how much production they have of these chips?
ask them if there are any issues?
and other newsworthy things
the gtx 750ti had way more pull on the mainboard, easily up to like 130 watts down the PCIe port
noone actually blew up a single board using either of those cards.
so you may want to check whether the competition didn't do the same thing earlier, before you start your fanboying and play the bashing game yourself... lol
[quote author=Anon link=topic=84939.msg330553#msg330553
Are you claiming AMD never released drivers who burned GPUs? Worse than that AMD released Polaris GPU which literally melted motherboards.
About Geforce Experience. Have you deleted your Facebook account after latest scandal or kept it to bash and spread anti Nvidia propaganda?
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Goog luck finding articles/news regarding AMD cards melting motherboards. Fake.
I've never expected anything less of nVidia as they always reminded me of Intel's endless drive for greed and profit at all costs. Bring it on, this is the future the green lovers want, so let them have it and eat it. I've finally dropped out of the GPU market entirely after the hilarious rise of prices, done with it either way. Good luck and god speed, you're gonna need it.
Quote from: Arewijk on April 25, 2018, 16:52:59
the gtx 750ti had way more pull on the mainboard, easily up to like 130 watts down the PCIe port
noone actually blew up a single board using either of those cards.
so you may want to check whether the competition didn't do the same thing earlier, before you start your fanboying and play the bashing game yourself... lol
Thanks for confirming you don't know what power spikes are.
Quote from: Robert on April 25, 2018, 17:51:44
[quote author=Anon link=topic=84939.msg330553#msg330553
Are you claiming AMD never released drivers who burned GPUs? Worse than that AMD released Polaris GPU which literally melted motherboards.
About Geforce Experience. Have you deleted your Facebook account after latest scandal or kept it to bash and spread anti Nvidia propaganda?
Goog luck finding articles/news regarding AMD cards melting motherboards. Fake.
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hardforum. com/threads/psa-do-not-run-more-than-one-rx-480-directly-from-motherboard.1940868/
reddit. com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/4rfou0/brand_new_rx_480_just_destroyed_my_motherboard/
reddit. com/r/Amd/comments/4qwzpy/three_motherboards_and_counting_have_died_from/