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Test this laptop with eGPU please!

Can you please verify if it can run in dual hard drive setup. Like one SSD in the M.2 2280 slot. And another one in the regular 2.5' hard drive bay.

I am afraid I know the answer will be NO but I am hoping to be wrong.

Thanks...

Quote from: Tony G on February 20, 2018, 19:44:19
Can you please verify if it can run in dual hard drive setup. Like one SSD in the M.2 2280 slot. And another one in the regular 2.5' hard drive bay.

I am afraid I know the answer will be NO but I am hoping to be wrong.

Thanks...

Why don't you just look at the pictures of the inside of the laptop? That should answer your question. There's no room for a SATA drive.

@doncaruso
I did look at the pics and I didn't see one but I just wanted to be sure.

What's up with the attitude?

For a full review would it be possible to test the new side docking with this these steps in order to confim the presence/lack of Thunderbolt delay:
1. Have Thunderbolt dock and USB keyboard connected to dock.
2. Put computer to sleep without the dock.
3. Connect computer to Thunderbolt dock and resume.
4. Measure delay until external USB keybard becomes responsive.

Dell Thunderbolt docks are having delay ~15 seconds and it's documented as technical limitation of Thunderbolt protocol. It would be interesting to see if Lenovo has found a way to work around this problem.

Very interested in the full review of this model. It seems to be the 2018 ThinkPad to get. The X280 and X1 have only soldered memory, the T480 is a touch too large. The T480s is just the right mix of T480 and X1, while not being much larger than the X280, but for 25% increase in screen area.

Wanting to cheap out a bit, I asked the Lenovo chat rep if I could buy a T480s with a SATA M.2 SSD (128GB, base model), and upgrade to a PCIe (4x) M.2 SSD later. They said that would be impossible - that the SATA model T480s basically has a different motherboard than the 3 other PCIe models. Notebookchat - can you confirm that?

I'm looking to buy a T480s through work to upgrade from my X250 with an i5 and 16GB RAM. I opted for an i7 this time around as I've found I'm having many more low CPU intensity tasks open that keep my i5 at 100% right now.

i7-8550u
8GB RAM (DDR4-2400MHz) soldered, upgrading with an extra 8GB or 16GB module later
WQHD screen
backlit keyboard
fingerprint reader with FIDO built in
720p webcam with thinkshutter (more important privacy feature to me than windows hello)
128GB m.2 SATA SSD - had hoped to upgrade to a PCIe SSD later, but the lenovo chat guy said it would be impossible to upgrade as the slot on this model would be m.2 SATA only - not dual SATA/PCIe4x

Can anyone comment on the build? Am I permanently bottlenecking myself with the SATA m.2 SSD? I have to keep the build at under 1000 british sterling pound after VAT, and I found a model with the 128GB SSD at that price through a special NDNA through work. I could switch to a FHD screen + 256GB PCIe SSD for about the same price. I don't want to lock myself in to SATA or PCIe...

Wait....so does this have the Thinkshutter or no?

All literature (and multiple Lenovo country websites) state that the WQHD screen can only come with the IR camera without the Thinkshutter? However, I am seeing on multiple Lenovo Deutschland pages that this comes with Thinkshutter. Can you verify please?

Yes, our WQHD model is equipped with the regular HD webcam and ThinkShutter, not the IR cam.

Quote from: Andreas Osthoff on February 23, 2018, 01:43:41
Yes, our WQHD model is equipped with the regular HD webcam and ThinkShutter, not the IR cam.

This is so incredibly odd. On the main Lenovo page for Germany, when you customize a T480s for purchase, it clearly states that you cannot combine a WQHD screen with the ThinkShutter. Very odd!

Could the reviewer check if this all the models have thunderbolt x2 or x4?

When will Lenovo go back to 16:10 screens ?  I just don't find 16:9 screens good for actual work; they are great for gaming and watching movies though.  I think Microsoft is heading in the right direction with the Surface devices.

I am currious on how Thinkpad Yoga X380 and T480 will perform. Do these model also have 44W configured TDP?

Lenovo released their Ideapad 720s-14 half a year ago which is basically the consumer test variant of the T480s. Similar weight and form factor, specs, battery size and ports etc. So if that has thicker chassis and dual fan cooling to give itself better thermal headroom, I don't see why an identical business model can't be more performance oriented. And I hope the Thinkpads will get Amd RR soon like the current Ideapad 720 series.

Quote from: D on February 23, 2018, 02:17:31

Quote from: Andreas Osthoff on February 23, 2018, 01:43:41
Yes, our WQHD model is equipped with the regular HD webcam and ThinkShutter, not the IR cam.

This is so incredibly odd. On the main Lenovo page for Germany, when you customize a T480s for purchase, it clearly states that you cannot combine a WQHD screen with the ThinkShutter. Very odd!

The configuration on Lenovo Singapore says lets you pair any screen with or without ThinkShutter, with th exception of the HDR display: that's only available with the ThinkShutter.

16:10 screens please.  No more of this 16:9 stuff for business and professional use.  Something more Surface-like is good too.

Thanks for the review.

Just curious, why is there no PWM test?

Does this still have the limited key rollover rate as the T470S? I guess not many reviewers are also very fast typists for me to never have read of this design shortcoming before getting one, if you type very fast and hit 2-3 keys in a short time span it doesn't know what to do and drops some key strokes.

The article closes with: "The full review of the new ThinkPad T480s will be available next week." I'm really looking forward to the full review. Any idea when this will be posted?

why the weight here is different from the specs listed on lenovo website...?

When is the full review coming out?

Quote from: B-low on March 14, 2018, 10:35:22
The article closes with: "The full review of the new ThinkPad T480s will be available next week." I'm really looking forward to the full review. Any idea when this will be posted?

It's "marketing". They told us the T480s is the best 2018 Thinkpad and now all of us are checking the website daily for the full review. But before they release it, they give us some boring ones that we otherwise wouldn't probably read. And that's how they increase their website views.

How many PCI-E lane on USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 port?

The price is relly only 1300 euro?? Here in Czech republic costs twice the price!!!

Hi, and could some-one tell about the number of lanes for TB3 for mx150 machine?

Is it really this machine has no 4x lanes to use with eGPU?

Very strange as even consumer HP x360 13 has full support of 4x TB3 ports:-(

Simply put, the number of PCIe lanes has little to do with limitation of motherboard but the controllers implemented by OEMs. For TB3 there are three: 1 port - 2 lanes, 1 port - 4 lanes, and 2 ports - 4 lanes. Most OEMs use the first one obviously because it's the cheapest. 2 TB3 ports always have the third controller. On Thinkpads, X1 series and the P series laptops with 35-45W TDP CPUs have 4 lanes on the TB3 port and all the rest have 2 lanes. So T480s has 2 lanes, yes.

And as I understand x1 carbon hase 2x implementation with m.2 nvme, thats why the benchmark is 30% less there. Am I right?

The T480s (newest Firmware/BIOS and most up-to-date Windows) has problems with iPhone8 USB-connection - we checked various Notebooks and various iPhone 8. With other iPhones we could not replicate the following issues:

The right USB-Port works only if the iPhone8 is connected when booting the machine - otherwise the connection goes "on-off" in second-rhythm.

When connecting it to the left USB - the connection stays stable for charging, however data-connection does not work...

Anyone else able to replicate the issue?

Best
CarLazar

I've a flash offer for a T480s that includes the option to upgrade to an i7-8250U instead of the i5 for just 30€ more. It sounds attractive to me, but this test has been done with the i5, and I'm very conscious of noise and heat. Could changing to an i7 change the noise and heat levels? (I'd rather had the i5 if it does...)

Any fast comment could be very wellcome as I don't know how long the flash sale will last...

I obviously meant i7-8550U.
And that I'd rather the i5, if the i7 is noisier or hotter; obviously if having an i7 changes the noise or heat levels for better (might it be possible?) I'd prefer the i7. Obvious, but just in case.

How did you manually raise the TDP to 44w?