The popular YouTuber Kyle Hansen (Bitwit) has posted a new video showing how he managed to build a respectable gaming PC on a lower budget than the MSRP for Nvidia's unloved GeForce RTX 4080. The rig features an AMD Ryzen 5 5600X as CPU and Radeon RX 6800 XT as GPU, and there was even enough in the budget for 32 GB of RAM.https://www.notebookcheck.net/YouTuber-burns-Nvidia-by-building-AMD-based-gaming-rig-with-Ryzen-5-5600X-and-Radeon-RX-6800-XT-for-less-than-an-RTX-4080-at-MSRP.669992.0.html
Post one more trash article like this and I'll never be back.
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Quote from: Gizmo Manning on November 23, 2022, 01:40:43Post one more trash article like this and I'll never be back.
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No one cares
Quote from: Gizmo Manning on November 23, 2022, 01:40:43Post one more trash article like this and I'll never be back.
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Your must like getting raped by Nvidia. Allegedly the 4080 costs like $300 to build, and they are selling for $1200??
Nvidia jacks the prices substantially higher every generation, leading the charge. a middling video card now costs as much as the entire rest of the system combined. Nvidia can pound salt. They rape gamers every chance they get.
They can do that cause they have better software and hardware for many things, not just gaming. Nvidia cards are also being used for productive purposes. If you want to game stick to amd and don't bitch around about the price. The only people that I see bitching around are people without cash.
Quote from: Bipbip on November 23, 2022, 02:39:19They can do that cause they have better software and hardware for many things, not just gaming. Nvidia cards are also being used for productive purposes. If you want to game stick to amd and don't bitch around about the price. The only people that I see bitching around are people without cash.
Please tell me you are getting paid by Nvidia to say stupid crap like this on the internet.
It would be too pathetic if you weren't....
Quote from: Gokkun on November 23, 2022, 03:44:53Quote from: Bipbip on November 23, 2022, 02:39:19They can do that cause they have better software and hardware for many things, not just gaming. Nvidia cards are also being used for productive purposes. If you want to game stick to amd and don't bitch around about the price. The only people that I see bitching around are people without cash.
Please tell me you are getting paid by Nvidia to say stupid crap like this on the internet.
It would be too pathetic if you weren't....
No, it's well known how unpredictable AMD drivers can get. No one wants to play Russian roulette with their system and be hunting down bugs.
I dont approve Nvidia high prices, tho.
Quote from: Gizmo Manning on November 23, 2022, 01:40:43Post one more trash article like this and I'll never be back.
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This is a great article the 4080 is a terrible value product and it's no wonder its sitting in shelves.
Nobody cares, or wants those cards. All of the poor people shut up and go to AMD, or buy a next gen console. Nvidia cards aren't for you! There's no reason to keep whining about something out of your league.
Quote from: kek on November 23, 2022, 05:06:11Quote from: Gokkun on November 23, 2022, 03:44:53Quote from: Bipbip on November 23, 2022, 02:39:19They can do that cause they have better software and hardware for many things, not just gaming. Nvidia cards are also being used for productive purposes. If you want to game stick to amd and don't bitch around about the price. The only people that I see bitching around are people without cash.
Please tell me you are getting paid by Nvidia to say stupid crap like this on the internet.
It would be too pathetic if you weren't....
No, it's well known how unpredictable AMD drivers can get. No one wants to play Russian roulette with their system and be hunting down bugs.
I dont approve Nvidia high prices, tho.
My 6800xt drivers has been just as stable as my old GTX 1080.Unlike you i actcually used a RDNA2 card since launch
Haha amd driver bas argument bad doesn't exists Anymore you are still living in 2016 if you think that
Just because you DO have the cash to buy a 4080/90 doesn't mean you should! Sure I can go buy 4 of the 4080 if I wanted but I do not and would not foolishly splurge on an overpriced card just because I can. Besides... I cant afford a 10k display yet.
Quote from: Gizmo Manning on November 23, 2022, 01:40:43Post one more trash article like this and I'll never be back.
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Bye....
Quote from: kek on November 23, 2022, 05:06:11Quote from: Gokkun on November 23, 2022, 03:44:53Quote from: Bipbip on November 23, 2022, 02:39:19They can do that cause they have better software and hardware for many things, not just gaming. Nvidia cards are also being used for productive purposes. If you want to game stick to amd and don't bitch around about the price. The only people that I see bitching around are people without cash.
Please tell me you are getting paid by Nvidia to say stupid crap like this on the internet.
It would be too pathetic if you weren't....
No, it's well known how unpredictable AMD drivers can get. No one wants to play Russian roulette with their system and be hunting down bugs.
I dont approve Nvidia high prices, tho.
AMD drivers have been stable for years now, you need to stop living in the past, disinformation doesn't help anyone.
Any idea about power consumption and noise levels?
"Talk bad about my unrequited love with Nvidia again and I'll never be back"
I haven't purchased a Nvidia product since the 1080. Don't care about ray tracing when it drops my FPS to nothing unless I spend $1,000+. The 980 Ti was awesome and the 1080 was decent. Since then Nvidia has been raping the dog sh!t out of those willing to let it happen. EVGA didn't leave because NVIDIA was fair or understanding.
As for driver issues, maybe it's because I only play 2 or 3 AAA games with a simulator or two but I haven't had any major issues with drivers.
I play a lot of unoptimized early access games that you have to brute force through if you want 144fps on 1080p with max settings. They can look really nice if you have a card that can handle it. For me, that is nVidia, AMD is fine if you are ok with frame rate drops and in the odd title they perform well with a none directx API, but they never can seem to keep up with the nVidia for the most part. The price is high yes, but the product is superior. If you are ok with AMD performance by all means buy one, they aren't bad, but don't complain about nVidia pricing, obviously they didn't market it for you to buy, while AMD did. Mainstream gaming on AMD or nVida is great... Arc on the other hand, don't get me started :facepalm:
I dont see how this article like..has much of a point. Nvidia is top notch. Its like saying you can build a cheaper car to be faster than a more expensive one. You can...but the cheap car is still a cheap car. Fast or not. Premiums are paid for nvidia.
I just burnt Sony by spending less on an Xbox one than on a PS5. What a dumb article. Is the 4080 over priced? Sure. "I bought pervious generation hardware for cheaper" isn't much of a burn. For the same price as this build they will be able to get a 7900xtx (you know the AMD card that is actually going to be comparable and competing against a 4080) and none of the rest of the components, maybe a ram stick.
I'm exceedingly happy with my RTX 4080. Sure, the sticker shock hurt a little, but I want quality and I got it. I've given AMD (ATI back in the day) too many chances over the years to impress me with their GPUs and have always gone back to Nvidia. I often see people complain about games being glitchy, crashing, etc at launch then see they have an AMD card. I have very rarely had any issue with games at launch with an Nvidia card.
Quote from: Warrior24_7 on November 23, 2022, 06:52:28Nobody cares, or wants those cards. All of the poor people shut up and go to AMD, or buy a next gen console. Nvidia cards aren't for you! There's no reason to keep whining about something out of your league.
Agreed 110%
If you can't afford it, the product wasn't meant for you.
Welcome to life. 101.
Hue, hue! I have mostly the same parts and couldn't be happier with them.
Same MB, same CPU, 32gb of trident Z RAM at 3600, and a Corsair RMx 750W PSU, all bought around 2 years ago. And just bought the 6800xt TUF under MSRP in EU on Black Friday to switch my GTX 1070 Strix. All packed in a white Lian Li Mesh II.
I'm rly happy with how it works in most games at 1440p with 144Hz monitor, and it should still hold me for another 3-4 years until DDR5 memory and MBs will have a decent price to upgrade.
I definitely recommend the build they made.
Quote from: Rygar1976 on November 24, 2022, 00:23:23Quote from: Warrior24_7 on November 23, 2022, 06:52:28Nobody cares, or wants those cards. All of the poor people shut up and go to AMD, or buy a next gen console. Nvidia cards aren't for you! There's no reason to keep whining about something out of your league.
Agreed 110%
If you can't afford it, the product wasn't meant for you.
Welcome to life. 101.
Sometimes it's not about if you can afford it or not... Sometimes you have to back the team that supports you the most. Or bends you over the least if you get me drift. Of course some people like that sort of thing. However at their current rate Nvidia won't be a bragging point for how much money you have... Not after they burn your house down. Or excuse me, your sugar daddies house. Seriously both the 3090 and 4090 have had fire issues? For what? The 4090 doesn't even have updated dp. So its not like your gonna use it to play nonexistent 8k titles (or high refresh 4k) so what good is power you can't use... From people that hate their own purchasers. All money aside I'm not gonna pay someone to rob me... Especially if they don't give me usable power in return lol. Nvidia needs to change their tune in a hurry... Of course they can always sell you a lead brick plated in gold and so long as it costs enough... You would probably be happy. (P.s. I had 20 no lhr 3090's before the merge, cash is no issue for me)
AMD fanboys are such clowns
I really don't understand why you need a top of the end graphics card, even low level cards now can support 1080p 60fps which is more than enough even for competitive gaming. These over TDP cards is only useful for miners, now even that is a lost cause.
Lmao, I did it with even less than his price.
846.82 USD including taxes
Quote from: samcolons on November 24, 2022, 07:04:27I really don't understand why you need a top of the end graphics card, even low level cards now can support 1080p 60fps which is more than enough even for competitive gaming. These over TDP cards is only useful for miners, now even that is a lost cause.
not everyone's needs are equal. An entry level card is plenty for many people, but there are plenty who need something a lot more powerful. Even current top model cards can delivery performance that is lacking in areas at times.
Amazing, you can game on older hardware without breaking the bank?
I would have never guessed this was possible, playing a game on a non 4090 or even a 4080. Just imagine your game can run at 200FPS while you aren't viewing at half that rate.
Quote from: Bipbip on November 23, 2022, 02:39:19They can do that cause they have better software and hardware for many things, not just gaming. Nvidia cards are also being used for productive purposes. If you want to game stick to amd and don't bitch around about the price. The only people that I see bitching around are people without cash.
Guess you are one of those people with more money than brains?
Just because you have the cash, price doesn't matter? You'll gladly pay a 300% markup and thank them?
I would venture a guess then VERY few people use their Nvidia gaming cards for other purposes then gaming. Especially now with crypto crash.
Quote from: Warrior24_7 on November 23, 2022, 06:52:28Nobody cares, or wants those cards. All of the poor people shut up and go to AMD, or buy a next gen console. Nvidia cards aren't for you! There's no reason to keep whining about something out of your league.
LoL
There are lots of people that can afford it but choose not to pay those prices cause they recognize they are being raped.
Yes, these cards are intended for the people who have to have the very best, price is no object, bragging rights, etc.
But No one in the real world cares about what card you have, not even your parents living upstairs above the basement.
Quote from: ubm91 on November 24, 2022, 01:56:55AMD fanboys are such clowns
I currently own a GTX 1080, thinking about a new card to game at 4k. Haven't needed anything until now.
But historically Nvidia has hosed gamers every chance they get. Aside from jacking prices,
Gsync - Proprietary, was very expensive monitors.
Freesync - not
Dlss - proprietary, only works on newer gen cards.
FSR - works on everything.
Nvidia forces you to buy the latest, AMD gives it to you for free. Really want to buy an AMD card this time around and not support Nvidia and their antics as long as AMD specs are decent for price.
Will see....
There are a lot of reasons someone might want the fastest card. Hosting your own media server and attempting to encode several if not dozens of 4k high bitrate files to multiple users, while still gaming simultaneously is one great example. I am one of those users who think, while yes lower end cards can indeed play most games at 1080p 60fps, that's just not nearly enough for someone like me. I don't even consider myself a power user all that much. I bought a GTX 1080ti several years ago that I have been using. Yes, it's good enough for gaming. However, it is nowhere near good enough to run those very same games on even the cheapest $200 4k 60fps TV. Meaning, you'd need a much better card if you intend to have a living room gaming setup that runs at a constant 60fps high-ultra. Medium settings just don't cut it for a showroom like a family's living room.
Personally, my 36TB raid0 is nowhere near large or fast enough for my storage needs, my 16 4+ghz cores constantly get pinged at 100% sometimes, and my 32GB of memory is constantly being filled. I had an out of memory error just yesterday... I may be a very special use case, but again I consider myself a person on a very tight budget, and I buy most things used, and everything I mentioned is not even half decent enough compared to what I actually think I would use on a daily basis.