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Title: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread performance chart
Post by: Redaktion on April 07, 2021, 11:02:47
A new CPU Mark single-thread performance chart for desktop processors has been published by PassMark, and once again it features some startling results. It appears the Apple M1 silicon, which is a hybrid chip, is rapidly closing in on the powerful Intel Core i9-11900K desktop processor in this particular benchmark.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-M1-approaches-the-unbelievable-as-Intel-Core-i9-11900K-falters-in-PassMark-s-single-thread-performance-chart.531181.0.html
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: 8&8 on April 07, 2021, 11:46:01
ARM come future  :p
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: ddssavfaX on April 07, 2021, 13:51:59
Sad to see such low grade journalists here on notebook check. This article just shows that you know little about CPU architectures.
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: Intel_is_dead on April 07, 2021, 14:00:07
Intel is dead. I didn't kill it. Apple didn't kill it.
It was dying when M1 got here. Let's have the courtesy to read it the last rites. Amen.
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: Jez Winnington on April 07, 2021, 15:42:32
By Intel is dead you mean Intel slightly faltered after decades of dominance.

They are not dead because there are no longer top of some who's the fastest chart.

They are still market leader but they do have to up their game or they could be left behind.

But even now when you look at the more budget offering, i3's lower spec i5's, they have no competition. AMD haven't offered anything in that space.

People have hate for Intel because it was clear they were holding performance back and making you pay extra for features AMD came along and offered for free.

But let's be clear they are market leader by quite a large margin and due to their More complete product line that isn't about to change any time soon. No matter what reviews say about their cpu's
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: Intel i3/5 get stomped on April 07, 2021, 17:53:17
Jez, what are you on about? AMD has more dominance in the low end than anywhere else... The only place intel even competes anymore is whatever their absolute most expensive, over-binned CPU is... It makes perfect sense as well, they can make great chips, but their manufacturing processes have faltered, therefore their yields are terrible. AMD has the opposite issue, their top tier performance is the most difficult to achieve, but their yields are excellent. Pricing has only inflated recently due to their absolute dominance in the lower end-mid grade chips.
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: D on April 07, 2021, 21:20:11
Apple is artificially manipulating benchmark scores.
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: Mark Faulkner on April 07, 2021, 21:22:04
Wow it beats some CPUs in single Core yet is slower overall than a Ryzen 1700... I am sure Intel amd AMD are very concerned 😂
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: Brian J Grier on April 07, 2021, 21:36:24
Apple doesn't matter for one main reason...

No one can buy their chips and put them in their device.

If you want to use Apple's chips you have to use them in their boxes with their software. So any chance of building an awesome IoT, gaming, server, or desktop system is completely out of the question.
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: Vaughn on April 07, 2021, 21:49:14
hmm I score 3626 single core on a 5800X  :p
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: JayN on April 07, 2021, 22:18:20
Intel's Alder Lake chips appear to be closer to the Apple M1 designs.  Intel says they will roll out a 16 core Alder Lake desktop chip in 2H 2021 with DDR5 memory,+ PCIE5 io and new cores.  Its Gracemont cores will also provide an option for low power operation ... which should eat into Apple's features.

Apple needs to catch up with Tiger Lake's Thunderbolt 4 that's already sold over 30 million chips since launch.  Intel's integrated Xe GPUs and display support are also superior.
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: e on April 08, 2021, 00:22:11
so, was this test done on a single logical core, or a single physical core on x86? 
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: Roger on April 08, 2021, 07:20:32
the thing is this was Apples first attempt at chips and only for the entry level computers! Look out, much better ones are coming
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: L on April 08, 2021, 08:21:07
@Roger
Apple has had it's own chips in phones and tablets for years..
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: Prasad on April 08, 2021, 18:23:51
How exactly is this useful? I bought this M1 Macbook Pro hoping to do video editing for my film. However, the professional editors that are in the field all want to use Avid Composer for editing, and it's not available for Apple Silicon with no date in sight when it will be available. The software available  for M1 chips is limited. It is now being used as a glorified iPad without the touch capability. It is going to take a long time for the Apple Silicon to beat Intel chips right now.
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: Roger on April 09, 2021, 00:19:19
Quote from: L on April 08, 2021, 08:21:07
@Roger
Apple has had it's own chips in phones and tablets for years..
Yes, of course, but I was talking about laptop CPUs
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: _MT_ on April 09, 2021, 09:49:14
Quote from: Roger on April 09, 2021, 00:19:19
Yes, of course, but I was talking about laptop CPUs
The problem is that they have been planning it all along. When they released their first phone chip, they talked about it being a desktop class design - or something to that effect. Of course, everybody laughed at that back then. But Apple has been keeping breakneck pace ever since then. Only proving just how much potential their design has. M1 really is pretty much A14 with some extra cores. And while Apple had no history of processor design, the people they hired did.
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: Electrical Engineer on April 09, 2021, 10:25:51
How funny. Now benchmarks are looking damn fake which can be controlled by manufacturers. It close gap with 11900k in single core but can't beat 3 gen old ryzen cpu. How moronic these tests and news are. Lol
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: Electrical Engineer on April 09, 2021, 10:26:56
Quote from: 8&8 on April 07, 2021, 11:46:01
ARM come future  :p
Will you further stop joking yourself here. Lol
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: Electrical Engineer on April 09, 2021, 10:27:57
Quote from: Mark Faulkner on April 07, 2021, 21:22:04
Wow it beats some CPUs in single Core yet is slower overall than a Ryzen 1700... I am sure Intel amd AMD are very concerned 😂

Hahahaha exactly
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: smh on April 09, 2021, 21:07:47
Quote from: Electrical Engineer on April 09, 2021, 10:25:51
How funny. Now benchmarks are looking damn fake which can be controlled by manufacturers. It close gap with 11900k in single core but can't beat 3 gen old ryzen cpu. How moronic these tests and news are. Lol
Woooow, why do idiots even bother coming to this website? Laughing my asss offffffff. You idiots don't realize that the Apple M1 only draws freaking 13W at max CPU load. At idle, it sits at 23 mW. That's 0.23W for you idiots. 13W AT MAX CPU LOAD. How much does AMD or Intel need for match that level of performance? 40? 50? nope, more like 70-80. AMD and Intel are very concerned because they cannot match that level of performance per watt as Apple with their x86 counterparts.
Title: Re: Apple M1 approaches the unbelievable as Intel Core i9-11900K falters in PassMark's single-thread
Post by: pdx on June 30, 2021, 05:33:37
Quote from: JayN on April 07, 2021, 22:18:20
Intel's Alder Lake chips appear to be closer to the Apple M1 designs.  Intel says they will roll out a 16 core Alder Lake desktop chip in 2H 2021 with DDR5 memory,+ PCIE5 io and new cores.  Its Gracemont cores will also provide an option for low power operation ... which should eat into Apple's features.

Apple needs to catch up with Tiger Lake's Thunderbolt 4 that's already sold over 30 million chips since launch.  Intel's integrated Xe GPUs and display support are also superior.

Ignoring the pure guesswork and faith in Alderlake... in what way is Xe superior in any way?  It gets half the frame rates at twice the power of the Apple solution.