A new video has demonstrated the effects of prolonged crypto mining on the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti. Seemingly, stressing the Turing card for so long in this way causes noticeable in-game performance drops, including to average FPS, 1% lows and GPU clock speeds.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2080-Ti-is-a-shadow-of-its-former-self-after-18-months-of-crypto-mining.524632.0.html
By your own admission, the video creator's testing is garbage. They haven't confirmed replacing paste and thermal pads nor have they even stated whether they've cleaned out dust or anything else that would cause the gpu to thermal throttle.
The video is click bait trash along with this pointless article.
So, essentially, no impact. Without knowing ambient conditions or maintenance performed, one could easily this would happen to any card that was used for gaming and in a PC that was left powered on 24/7.
So a card they mined on for 18 months and after initial testing they did not:
1. Clean the HSF of dust and retest.
2. Remove the HSF, repaste and retest.
18 months of 24/7 mining degrades the paste, not the silicon.
Complete and total garbage commissioned by nvidia, no doubt, to cast doubt on the used card market in order to get those prices down. They can't get 3000 series silicon fast enough, the ETH crypto limiter on the 3060 has already been defeated in Linux, and ain't nobody want a 1050Ti.
I have a Gigabyte 1080Ti I have mined on since day 1 in my possession back in 2018. I have cleaned and repasted it several times over the years. This last time, I lapped the OEM heatsink and got an excellent mount. It's been running an XOC BIOS since 2019 so no temp, current, or voltage protections. Mines ETH at 49-51 MH/s with Ethlargement. 2088/6050 clocks for 24/7 use. Best part: load temp never breaks 35C in a 22C ambient basement. Heatsink gets hot, but doesn't saturate with fans at 100% and the cosmetic shroud popped off.
Fake, bullshit news piece for clicks.
Quote from: Renegade on February 27, 2021, 04:53:49
So a card they mined on for 18 months and after initial testing they did not:
1. Clean the HSF of dust and retest.
2. Remove the HSF, repaste and retest.
18 months of 24/7 mining degrades the paste, not the silicon.
Complete and total garbage commissioned by nvidia, no doubt, to cast doubt on the used card market in order to get those prices down. They can't get 3000 series silicon fast enough, the ETH crypto limiter on the 3060 has already been defeated in Linux, and ain't nobody want a 1050Ti.
I have a Gigabyte 1080Ti I have mined on since day 1 in my possession back in 2018. I have cleaned and repasted it several times over the years. This last time, I lapped the OEM heatsink and got an excellent mount. It's been running an XOC BIOS since 2019 so no temp, current, or voltage protections. Mines ETH at 49-51 MH/s with Ethlargement. 2088/6050 clocks for 24/7 use. Best part: load temp never breaks 35C in a 22C ambient basement. Heatsink gets hot, but doesn't saturate with fans at 100% and the cosmetic shroud popped off.
Fake, bullshit news piece for clicks.
100%. Any tech savvy person worth their salt was thinking this within the first 5 seconds of reading this article.
Well, Alex alderson is not the only one to have written clickbaity articles about this YouTube video.
Can you give a source of nvidia's eth hashrate limiter being defeated on Linux?
I watched the video. I assume most people commenting didn't. The "worn-out" mining card system consistently, across all games "tested", used 500-2000 MB more RAM. Were they downloading and installing Windows update while testing or something? They have more obvious problems then hypothetical thermal goo problems. They were right there on screen.
Guys, that channel is always posting sus content. I wouldn''t be surprised if it was the same card, but standard vs 20% fan speed cap benches.
Honestly sick of seeing this trash in my Google feed.
This is a ridiculous lopsided test that only people with no knowledge of hardware would even entertain.
"Testing Games"? You look like fools. I just hope you know that.
I didn't realize this site was posting such biaised content. That article is incredibly bad and if the authors does not realize why it is blatetly wrong he should not be allowed to publish.
On the other side I have 2 7 yr old gtx 780s and have used them for cloud computing for 7 years roughly every 2 to 2,5 years they get repasted, and fins and fan get cleaned. And they functioned like new....
I replaced both end 2020 and my new 2070S has been at 100% load at every moment I'm not behind my desk.
It'll likely work for the next 5 to 7 years or until replaced. Provided I provide basic maintenence.
that performance difference might be just because of the thermal interfacing material wearing out. Prolonged graphics card usage tends to wear out the thermal paste, this lowering it's efficiency and making the cooler less efficient. I would suggest a thermal paste reapplication and retuning the same set of benchmarks for a more accurate result.
Cheers!
Fake. Mining wear won't cause the card to use more RAM.
Dumb a** crypto miners don't properly burn in their cards. They just plug it in and start. I hope Nvidia cryptogimps every new chip they make.
Wow that 4 fps drop is a huge game breaker for me, not! Dumb video showing a low degrade. There isn't even a comparison of a 2080ti that has been used for gaming for 18 months? How do we know that doesn't have the same degradation.
This is click bait in my mind.
I always remove the heatsink and apply expensive thermal paste on anything that has a lot of use on it anyway. I even do it on laptops I remove the heat sink clean all the dust out of it and use alcohol to clean off the old thermal paste from both surfaces. And then I carefully apply new high-end thermal paste. Not only does that stuff dry out but the factories are cranking those things out and often don't do a great job applying it in the first place.
Quote from: danwat1234 on February 27, 2021, 08:13:20
Can you give a source of nvidia's eth hashrate limiter being defeated on Linux?
It was tweeted by NotAnAppleFan. I don't have the link at the ready, but that's who I saw it revealed by.
You should be ashamed of writing this clickbait s*** and your editor should be ashamed of allowing it. I'm never visiting this site again. Blocked on my Google feed.
This is stupid. You can't just buy a mining card and expect it to work for games if they flashed the bios for mining either. I don't think I have seen that once in the article I have read.
N=1 Does not mean anything scientific.
Quote from: George Davey on February 27, 2021, 20:53:59
N=1 Does not mean anything scientific.
So true. Ultimately, it may just be a binning problem, all other issues aside.
Just commenting to echo previous sentiment and say f*** you for the clickbait title.
Otherwise, good article. But not what I expect for this news outlet. Shave on you.
Quote from: G. on February 27, 2021, 23:14:55
Just commenting to echo previous sentiment and say f*** you for the clickbait title.
Otherwise, good article. But not what I expect for this news outlet. Shave on you.
Shame* dammit
Blocking from google feed for clickbait with zero information added. No more notebookcheck for me.
Looks like the after mining card is simply throttled because its too hot.
Probably needs new thermal paste. although one my examine the power consumption as well to see if that increased
This is straight up not true. The 2080ti wasn't even cleaned. A dirty heatsink could absolutely throttle that much performance out if the card on its own.
It's interesting to see how delusional people keep quacking about thermal paste like broken records.
Maybe one day you'll wake up and realize your average buyer CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW. Yeah it's pretty hard using our brain i know.
Not only is that the responsibility of the miner to make sure the card is cleaned and repasted before sale, but it is also the miner's responsibility to warn the buyer that the card has NO warranty. As repasting VOIDS any warranty for almost all companies.
The video demonstrates why the average gamer should not trust or buy from a miner. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR AND IF YOU PAY BELOW MSRP FOR A GPU YOU GET A BELOW MSRP QUALITY.
Removing you from the Google feed for posting this trash
B l o c k e d
Blocked from google. The title wasnt even a clickbait, it is a flat lie. Reporting for that.
Quote from: Rym on February 28, 2021, 09:59:05
YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR
Just no. Laughable, in fact.
You mean they didn't do the minimum of reapplying thermal interface material after 1.5 years of abnormally heavy usage and then made a video about how it performed like no one had done the minimum to replace the TIM? My god, what a ducking revelation.
This is so hilarious...the one on the left is running in the mid 50Cs and the one on the right is in the 70s....nothing about this video is legit, it's a tailored LIE.
Just another clickbait article. Sure sign of sinking website.
As for article. Of course, because mining card has cooling issue. Very likely it needs thermal paste replacement. But basically what us happening is thermal throttling, meaning card clicks down to stay withing temperature target. And instead of replacing paste and actually figuring things out to our out educational piece, it seems like author was way too much in hurry to cash in on clickbait. A good site would take article like that down, because they value their regular visitors and audience more than burst you get with clickbait. I guess not this one. Just saying.
As for mining cards, they are safe purchase for reasonable price, especially if you can get picture of mining rig and can see that cards were spaced nicely. Miners will usually even undervolt them so they don't run too hot. But there is no harm in asking about it. Also always be prepared to change thermal paste on used cads. It could be fine, but I would do it just in case anyway.
But even with mining those cards will still last you for years to come. Unless you are looking for card you will keep more than 5 years, it will be fine. And as long as price is right, that is non issue.
Also you can get same with used cards sold by gamers. You never know how well cooled and maintained card was there either.
Removing you from Google feed for continuous low quality time waste clickbaiting posts.
Electronics do not just 'wear out' or slow down over time. Electricity is electricity, and as long as there's no physical damage or corrosion to the components it will always perform as it was designed. This is because there are no moving parts with the card itself. The cooling system however was likely never cleaned properly or the fan bearings have worn out, both of which would reduce its effectiveness and lead to the card thermal throttling due to higher temps. Modern electronics are really super reliable, and performance tends to be affected by either software advancing beyond its capabilities or issues with moving parts it relies on to operate, which DO wear out due to their nature.
Useless video and even more useless article.
There is literally no information.
- was it actually the same GPU?
- was the exact same system used (fresh install, same version, same drivers etc.)
- same bios and microcode? Intel took quite a hit from Spectre meltdown
- was the thermal paste replaced?
- was the GPU undervolted and cooled well?
So many question and no answers...
Also blocking your site. If you can't be bothered to consider basic cause and effect in your articles, I'm not going to bother reading it.
Another user blocking your site from all Google feeds. Ridiculous "article".