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Title: Razer Book 13 vs. Dell XPS 13 9310: Same CPU, Same Display, Big Differences
Post by: Redaktion on December 23, 2020, 23:15:14
The latest Intel Evo laptops from Dell and Razer have a lot in common and yet one of them offers significantly faster performance than the other. The Razer Book 13 costs a lot more than the Dell, but its benefits are tangible.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Razer-Book-13-vs-Dell-XPS-13-9310-Same-CPU-Same-Display-Big-Differences.512072.0.html
Title: Re: Razer Book 13 vs. Dell XPS 13 9310: Same CPU, Same Display, Big Differences
Post by: jeremy on December 24, 2020, 01:13:28
"more power efficient"

I think power efficient needs to be clarified. Is the Dell actually exhibiting higher performance/watt in your test, or is it simply drawing less power? If it's simply drawing less power, then it should be noted as "consumes less power," not "more power efficient." That phrase is further complicated by your own "load average" showing the Book 13 consuming less power than the XPS 13.

A close analogy is a city bus vs a small hatchback. Sure, the bus uses more energy, but it can also carry a lot more people, lowering the actual energy consumption per person (assuming a loaded bus - which can be assumed in the analogy, since Notebookcheck is extrapolating this observation when the laptops are under medium to heavy loads, not idle).
Title: Re: Razer Book 13 vs. Dell XPS 13 9310: Same CPU, Same Display, Big Differences
Post by: A on December 24, 2020, 03:23:17
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Dell's biggest issues have been poor thermals. And those poor thermals hamper their entire system.

They really need to get their thermals straight unless their market segment is people who want a laptop that doubles as a grill.
Title: Re: Razer Book 13 vs. Dell XPS 13 9310: Same CPU, Same Display, Big Differences
Post by: LtM on December 24, 2020, 05:53:31
I'm pretty sure the non touch version of Dell's XPS 13's display is Matte.
Title: Re: Razer Book 13 vs. Dell XPS 13 9310: Same CPU, Same Display, Big Differences
Post by: Bleik on December 24, 2020, 16:07:48
Was Dell the OEM behind KFC's chicken-warmer console? It seems like Dell has a huge untapped market here.

Quote from: A on December 24, 2020, 03:23:17
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Dell's biggest issues have been poor thermals. And those poor thermals hamper their entire system.

They really need to get their thermals straight unless their market segment is people who want a laptop that doubles as a grill.
Title: Re: Razer Book 13 vs. Dell XPS 13 9310: Same CPU, Same Display, Big Differences
Post by: koman on December 24, 2020, 17:49:04
I wonder what the 2021 15 incher XPS would be like. I wish it would get the new Ryzen chips and a 3:2 display. Also a chicken warmer with a gravy tray.
Title: Re: Razer Book 13 vs. Dell XPS 13 9310: Same CPU, Same Display, Big Differences
Post by: Dorby on December 24, 2020, 18:13:17
Same difference. Both Dell and Razer have terrible Quality Control, service, pricing and neither are willing to use AMD chips.

Especially if you want good service, nothing has yet to beat HP and Lenovo's premium support. All around pricing and QC is much better in my experience, and they were also the early adopters of Ryzen, which isn't significant in itself but more so that both companies are willing to experiment and take risks for the benefit of consumers.
Title: Re: Razer Book 13 vs. Dell XPS 13 9310: Same CPU, Same Display, Big Differences
Post by: S.Yu on December 25, 2020, 14:21:06
Quote from: jeremy on December 24, 2020, 01:13:28
"more power efficient"

I think power efficient needs to be clarified. Is the Dell actually exhibiting higher performance/watt in your test, or is it simply drawing less power? If it's simply drawing less power, then it should be noted as "consumes less power," not "more power efficient." That phrase is further complicated by your own "load average" showing the Book 13 consuming less power than the XPS 13.

A close analogy is a city bus vs a small hatchback. Sure, the bus uses more energy, but it can also carry a lot more people, lowering the actual energy consumption per person (assuming a loaded bus - which can be assumed in the analogy, since Notebookcheck is extrapolating this observation when the laptops are under medium to heavy loads, not idle).
That would be very difficult to measure, because it would involve measuring the efficiency of the screen as well. The efficiency of a device is not the efficiency of the processor and its fans. There's actual use for a device on a minimal load with just the screen on, like word processing.
Title: Re: Razer Book 13 vs. Dell XPS 13 9310: Same CPU, Same Display, Big Differences
Post by: Dallas Grant on December 25, 2020, 15:30:15
Sell all day because razer are scum and make generic crap.