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Title: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: Redaktion on August 18, 2020, 16:19:24
Like Dell with the XPS line, Lenovo embraces the 16:10 aspect ratio. The upcoming Lenovo Yoga 7 Pro features the taller scree ratio with a new 14 inch display, combining it with the most powerful AMD laptop processor: The AMD Ryzen 9 4900H.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Yoga-Slim-7-Pro-combines-AMD-Ryzen-9-4900H-with-14-inch-16-10-screen.488510.0.html
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: sadsadas on August 18, 2020, 17:01:22
Kudos to Lenovo. They are pumping some very nice Renoir laptops.
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: RinzImpulse on August 18, 2020, 17:06:40
Glad that Lenovo doesn't skimp Ryzen laptops, though, Yoga Slim 7 with 4800U + 4266 MHz RAM review is still nowhere to be seen
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: anderrr on August 18, 2020, 17:25:21
what was that with "VRAM GDDR6" ?
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: john18082020 on August 18, 2020, 17:42:35
That's new. A Renoir laptop that doesn't come with a garbage 1080p screen.
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: Rodney on August 18, 2020, 18:17:30
Damn, why no 32 GB RAM option ? It would have been perfect for me  :(
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: WTF lenovo 45545 on August 18, 2020, 18:21:36
WTF??

Ryzen 9 with LPDDR RAM?
And how they want to cool that processor with such ridiculous thin chasis and no ventilation entry?

On paper it has Ryzen 9. In reality it will have Ryzen 3.

Lenovo go f*** yourself with such trash design.
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: WTF lenovo 45545 on August 18, 2020, 18:25:39
not be available until 2021


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: x on August 19, 2020, 00:06:15
Umm ... read carefully it's an mobile variant of the ryzen 9 processor and yes it can use lpddr ram

Quote from: WTF lenovo 45545 on August 18, 2020, 18:21:36
WTF??

Ryzen 9 with LPDDR RAM?
And how they want to cool that processor with such ridiculous thin chasis and no ventilation entry?

On paper it has Ryzen 9. In reality it will have Ryzen 3.

Lenovo go f*** yourself with such trash design.
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: yatra on August 19, 2020, 01:00:06
This one is becoming really interesting to a point where I believe I found my new laptop (oh wait 2021?  :o)

4900H awesome -> Will it throttle ?
16:10 awesome, finally. Plus it looks like a great screen. Finally.
300 & 400cd -> that's poor for business / travel.
16GB -> why not putting 32GB in this beast? In regards to the specs I'd take it.
Starting 800€ -> seriously? No typo ?

Everything else looks great to me, and It's great to see Lenovo stepping up with an XPS alternative.
I'll wait for this one like I'm still waiting for the same one announced with 4800U for weeks lol
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: anaconda on August 19, 2020, 01:48:17
I have currently 4800U Slim 7 and it is a beast.
With 25W TDP it is close to desktop 3600 65W performance.

Thermals are really good, in quiet mode it almoset never uses fans.

So do not say 4900H will throttle, it depends how Lenovo has adjusted the powers. It will most probably work at around 35W tdp but can boost higher.
Thanks lenovo for doing this, I will definedly upgrade my slim 7 to slim 7 pro because of the cool screen.

Hope it will also have 2 SSD slots like the Slim 7 has.
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: Valantar on August 19, 2020, 12:13:39
Quote from: WTF lenovo 45545 on August 18, 2020, 18:21:36
WTF??

Ryzen 9 with LPDDR RAM?
And how they want to cool that processor with such ridiculous thin chasis and no ventilation entry?

On paper it has Ryzen 9. In reality it will have Ryzen 3.

Lenovo go f*** yourself with such trash design.
What on earth are you on about? Let's do this point by point:

-Dell is able to cool a 25W+ CPU in their XPS 13. This is a larger 14" laptop, so with a little effort 45W should be perfectly doable. It doesn't have a dGPU, keeping the total heat output down.

-LPDDR4x has higher bandwidth than DDR4. The memory controllers in Renoir are able to operate as 2 64-bit channels of DDR4, up to 3200 MT/s, or four 32-bit channels of LPDDR4x, up to 4266MT/s. The latter has significantly higher bandwidth, uses less power, but has slightly higher latency, tops out at 32GB capacity maximum (theoretical, not for this design) and only comes in soldered-on form factors. LPDDR4x should make for a very noticeable performance increase for GPU-bound workloads.
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: cb88 on August 19, 2020, 15:49:21
Yeah 16GB only is getting pretty dated especially in a laptop as fast as this.

I'd say 16GB is almost a non starter these days if the ram is non upgradable... my work laptop has 40GB in it (32GB + the 8GB i was ordered with).
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: Spunjji on August 19, 2020, 16:15:28
I don't understand why there's always a raft of "ugh, 16GB" comments on these types of devices. It's not a workstation. 16GB of RAM is enough for the vast majority of users - if you need more, you need a workstation laptop.

This actually looks like a solid use of Renoir - LPDDR4X in combination with the 45W Ryzen variants should provide better sustained CPU and GPU performance than Whisky/Comet Lake + MX150/250/330, in a smaller board area than that combination and with better thermals. Add a decent screen in a solid chassis and you ought to have a bit of a winner!
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: weeeeeeeee on August 19, 2020, 17:11:10
Hm... well if anyone is still waiting on the 4800u review, a Chinese youtube video seems to show cinebench r15 starting at 1600 points and dropping immediatey, then stable around 1490 points after 30 minutes.

The leaked notebookcheck chart shows it starting around 1590 and dropping to 1480.

In comparison, the notebookcheck test of the T14s 4750u pro starts at 1350 and dropping to 1300.

Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: Rodney on August 19, 2020, 19:14:10
Quote from: Spunjji on August 19, 2020, 16:15:28
I don't understand why there's always a raft of "ugh, 16GB" comments on these types of devices. It's not a workstation. 16GB of RAM is enough for the vast majority of users - if you need more, you need a workstation laptop.

I kindly disagree. By your logic why would have this slim, small and very portable device should have Ryzen 9 4900H processor in the first place ? As you said, majority of users wouldn't need that kind of processing power anyway. And if they did, they should purchase a workstation laptop.

You can always make use of more RAM (atleast on Linux, don't know about Windows, but I assume it will work similarly), because OS will cache filesystem to the RAM and so you get faster access to the filesystem. It's much, much easier and cheaper to increase RAM than to put stronger CPU inside laptop. When you insert stronger CPU, you need more power, so you need design better cooling, which is hard to achieve in small, slim and lightweight device. So that's the thing I do not get - why Lenovo puts AMD's top laptop CPU and don't back it up with more RAM.
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: GoldSolitude on August 20, 2020, 08:29:17
Quote from: Rodney on August 18, 2020, 18:17:30
Damn, why no 32 GB RAM option ? It would have been perfect for me  :(

Lenovo Yoga Slim 7i Pro will have up to 32gb ram, it might be using tigerlake as the press release says it uses next gen intel. it might be pretty good, who knows tho lol.
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: Xajel on August 23, 2020, 13:01:25
Lenovo please, make this and the ideapad Renoir laptops available with 32GB RAM.

The 8GB is just silly with such powerful APU's, Any Ryzen 7 APU should come with 16GB & 32GB RAM options, while Ryzen 5 & 3 come with 8GB and 16GB options.
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: Shimon on August 25, 2020, 12:32:03
Look like only the intel variant will have the 90hz screen... Why? Are you saying the Ryzen 4900h doesn't have enough power to use it ?

Also, there's no thunderbolt 3 on this one.
Fun fact: Lenovo put TB3 on the Yoga 7, and not on the Yoga 7 pro. I will not even try to find a logic anymore...
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: vertigo on October 08, 2020, 09:12:27
Every time I think Lenovo can't get more idiotic, they step up and show they can. Seriously, what's the point in developing a naming scheme if you're not going to stick with it and are just going to start throwing various names that used to mean something on whatever random things they feel like. Yoga is supposed to mean convertible, yet lately they've been releasing several "Yoga" computers that are not!al laptops. Seriously Lenovo, get your heads out of your @$$3$.
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: seiferflo on October 30, 2020, 08:36:09
Where is this laptop? Still no signs of it.
nb: they've already released in Intel version with Tiger Lake i believe....
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: béla on November 04, 2020, 11:50:56
Quote from: seiferflo on October 30, 2020, 08:36:09

nb: they've already released in Intel version with Tiger Lake i believe....

They haven't released the intel version...They promised the AMD for August-September and still nothing.
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: seiferflo on November 10, 2020, 10:27:48
Finally arriving on PSREF in Asia and Australia
MT=82LA

Quite disappointed with that 400nits glossy screen... It's going to be limiting for mobile people.
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: Dorby on November 30, 2020, 10:15:12
I have been eyeing this while still waiting for a premium Ryzen laptop with - USB 4, 2-in-1 functionality with low-latency pen, base Nvidia dGPU, RAM sockets, better webcam in this day&age, and maybe, just possibly a bright OLED 120Hz display.

Nevertheless 16:10, QHD, 90Hz display and Ryzen H SoC in a thin and light Ultrabook are great moves from Lenovo, and honestly super commendable for setting up a high bar for 2021. Well done.
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: expresspotato on January 14, 2021, 00:41:22
Still not available in Canada months after the announcement. So disappointed in Lenovo.
Title: Re: Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro combines AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with 14 inch 16:10 screen
Post by: Astar on January 26, 2021, 12:48:27
Quote from: Valantar on August 19, 2020, 12:13:39
Quote from: WTF lenovo 45545 on August 18, 2020, 18:21:36
WTF??

Ryzen 9 with LPDDR RAM?
And how they want to cool that processor with such ridiculous thin chasis and no ventilation entry?

On paper it has Ryzen 9. In reality it will have Ryzen 3.

Lenovo go f*** yourself with such trash design.
What on earth are you on about? Let's do this point by point:

-Dell is able to cool a 25W+ CPU in their XPS 13. This is a larger 14" laptop, so with a little effort 45W should be perfectly doable. It doesn't have a dGPU, keeping the total heat output down.

-LPDDR4x has higher bandwidth than DDR4. The memory controllers in Renoir are able to operate as 2 64-bit channels of DDR4, up to 3200 MT/s, or four 32-bit channels of LPDDR4x, up to 4266MT/s. The latter has significantly higher bandwidth, uses less power, but has slightly higher latency, tops out at 32GB capacity maximum (theoretical, not for this design) and only comes in soldered-on form factors. LPDDR4x should make for a very noticeable performance increase for GPU-bound workloads.

Apparently the idiot "WTF lenovo 45545" has been banned and the post removed. But let's try to answer the guy anyway. If he had only bothered to check the reviews of this unit (also called the Yoga 14S 2021 in China) with the maintenance hatch cover removed, the internals show a twin fan twin heat pipe cooling solution. Compared to the crappy Intel/Nvidia non-pro Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 version, this Pro version with AMD only needs to cool one single die. That is how Lenovo is able to coax such insane performance levels out of this 8C16T beast of an AMD 4800H/4900H!

So much angst about nothing!