AMD's latest Renoir series is popping up on more and more gaming laptops and for good reason. If you can deal with the loud fan noise, then you won't be disappointed by the CPU performance of the surprisingly small Eluktronics RP-15.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Eluktronics-RP-15-Laptop-Review-The-Ryzen-7-4800H-Impresses-Yet-Again.466470.0.html
Very interesting device, is this a known brand? I heard only once or twice only about Eluktronics. Do they have good reputation?
A dedicated End key but no Home key?
I've owned a few of their machines. Not only do they deliver peak performance but also have a very hands on and supportive team!
I buy exclusively from them as I know they're always looking to maximize customers' dollar to get the best perf. They have very little marketing and business expenses so they can invest most of the money in R&D and bettering their produts.
Except they do near to no development apart heir boosting features as they are just reselling the same barebones any other custom notbook reseller also does.
Nevertheless, always a good choice if you search for repairability, customization and performance.
Quote from: chxei on May 28, 2020, 20:03:25
Very interesting device, is this a known brand? I heard only once or twice only about Eluktronics. Do they have good reputation?
They are the enthusiast brand.
Their laptops crush basically any of the "main brand" laptops (ie MSI, ASUS, etc) in terms of not only performance, but also value.
This is what I wanted to see. A good laptop with an AMD CPU inside. Not garbage like the ASUS ones with 60% srgb screen and performance throttled by 15% thanks to s*** cooling.
7 nm and still runs hot as hell - the weak point of AMD cpu for decades.
No undervolting possible.
Quote from: techdude on May 29, 2020, 11:31:15
7 nm and still runs hot as hell - the weak point of AMD cpu for decades.
No undervolting possible.
now compare it to the 8-core i9s.
Quote from: techdude on May 29, 2020, 11:31:15
7 nm and still runs hot as hell - the weak point of AMD cpu for decades.
No undervolting possible.
LOL you must not be keeping up with the latest tech.. And right now you only see Ryzen CPUs in cheap laptops but go ahead and pop a 10980hk in this sucker and see what happens HAHAHHAAA..
damn a laptop that can keep a 8 core cpu at 4 ghz... 90°C is a price i can take.
We are distributing this laptop under the name XMG CORE 15 in Germany and the European Union.
We have shared Notebookcheck's review with the ODM in Taiwan and received the following response.
1/ Idle Power Consumption
The ODM says that this model usually only an Idle power consumption in the 10W range - not the 21 to 35W that is quoted in the NBC review.
The ODM assumes that this is either related to the Windows installation from Eluktronics or the NBC editor was running some applications in the background that kepts the dGPU awake. Usually, in Idle Desktop, the dGPU should be sleeping unless you add an external desktop.
To understand more about which kind of software can keep the dGPU awake, please read the section My battery life is less than it should be / I have high Idle power consumption / my dGPU is not turning off in this article:
XMG Gaming Laptops: First Steps & Troubleshooting (https://www.reddit.com/r/XMG_gg/comments/g4sr9l/xmg_gaming_laptops_first_steps_troubleshooting/)
Elevated power consumption due to software background activity might also explain elevanted skin temperatures and fan noise activity in Idle.
Regarding skin temperature in Idle, the ODM has measured the following data:
Touchpad: 26°C
Keyboard: 33°C
Hotspot above keyboard: 34°C
This is at Idle desktop with dGPU sleeping and fans turned 'OFF' due to low CPU temperature, at 25°C ambient temperature.
2/ Balance of Performance vs. fan noise
This is not from the ODM but from me, personally. IMHO, the NBC review does not represent the true nature of the product very well. There is no mention of fan noise for CPU-only tasks (which is something the AMD CPU really shines at) and almost all of the fan noise data is recorded in the extremely high "Turbo" mode. Thin & Light products have multiple performance profiles for a reason. There is always a sweet spot in the lower profiles, and it's up to the user if they want to squeeze out the last percentage of performance of the system or not. NVIDIA calls this sweet spot "Max-Q" (see this chart (https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/4eyK3wuAPSPFWuubcZxkwa.jpg)) but the same logic also applies to the CPU and the whole system.
In the moderate "Gaming" profile (which is selected by default), Witcher 3 at "Ultra" quality settings on the boosted RTX 2060 (110W, much more than most other RTX 2060 competitors) records only a moderate 48 db(A).
3/ DPC Latency
The test scenario for DPC latency is relatively unclear in Notebookcheck. The German editors seems to use Prime95 (including start and stop) under full load. The US editors is randomly clicking around on their website (probably without Adblock). At any rate, it is our understanding that the ODM has recently begun some serious work on improving DPC latency stability across the whole product range. We have already been informed about significant improvements on one of our premium models, a collaboration with Intel.
Feel free to ask more questions. To read our full FAQ on this series, check out this thread (https://www.reddit.com/r/XMG_gg/comments/gf6srj/megathread_xmg_core_with_amd_ryzen_4000_series/) on Reddit.
BR,
Tom
This review was great but now I'm torn between either this or the ASUS TUF A15 not really sure which one to snag and where I'm from the price difference is about $300
Do you mean the ASUS TUF A15 with the 1660ti, or the one with the 2060?
And I am going to assume that the RP-15 is 300$ more than the ASUS, right?
Either way, from the research I've done, The Asus has a bigger battery, so in theory will have an hour or two of extra use time for non-gaming related tasks. And it might be cheaper for you.
On the other hand, the Asus has pretty crappy screen colors, compared to fairly good colors on the Eluktronics. If you plan to do anything other than gaming, the Asus might let you down with the screen.
Personally, I totally considered the Asus TUF A15, but I also do Lightroom photo processing on the side, so good screen colors matter to me, so I went with the RP-15.
If the Asus had a bit better screen, would be the perfect mid-range gaming/photo laptop.
Yes it was for the 2060 version! My main plan at first was going to be just gaming but granted I'll be doing coding soon and planned on possible using it for work as well! That's why I was leaning more towards the A15 for the price point and the power it had! The only
Thing that really worries me is the temperature of the machine while gaming. I would be ordering it with thermal paste which I feel would be just fine considering all reviews are just stock and that the paste helps significantly in my experience.
But then I have the RP-15 and the temps are all below 90 even on heavy work loads which seems incredible! So that's why I'm torn on which to go! Plus with the RP-17 being the same price I also thought if I was to get that bigger size that the thermals would be improved more due to more air flow being able to. But that battery only being 62w is killer
Quote from: chxei on May 28, 2020, 20:03:25
Very interesting device, is this a known brand? I heard only once or twice only about Eluktronics. Do they have good reputation?
This looks like an OEM from Qinghuatongfang, 清华同方，whcih has a bad rep I'm afraid.
Why it's ULTR-LOAD title!? it's avarage and 54 dis! There are plenty of gaming laptops that goes toword 60 dis like msi, dell and you didn't title it as ultra load! What is that mean!
Quote from: Skyline on June 10, 2020, 18:14:00
Yes it was for the 2060 version! My main plan at first was going to be just gaming but granted I'll be doing coding soon and planned on possible using it for work as well! That's why I was leaning more towards the A15 for the price point and the power it had! The only
Thing that really worries me is the temperature of the machine while gaming. I would be ordering it with thermal paste which I feel would be just fine considering all reviews are just stock and that the paste helps significantly in my experience.
But then I have the RP-15 and the temps are all below 90 even on heavy work loads which seems incredible! So that's why I'm torn on which to go! Plus with the RP-17 being the same price I also thought if I was to get that bigger size that the thermals would be improved more due to more air flow being able to. But that battery only being 62w is killer
In Romania, where I'm from, it's a bit more difficult to get the Eluktronics laptop, so I bought the A15 with the 1160 Ti for about 950 EUR, and a replacement screen for 170 EUR. The new screen is the NV156FHM-N4K, which is almost the same with the one Eluktronics has, so in total it cost me 1120 EUR for the laptop with a much better screen. The downside is that you need to change the screen yourself, thereby voiding the warranty and it is also possible to damage the screen bezel or the screen itself.
Quote from: Skyline on June 10, 2020, 18:14:00
Yes it was for the 2060 version! My main plan at first was going to be just gaming but granted I'll be doing coding soon and planned on possible using it for work as well! That's why I was leaning more towards the A15 for the price point and the power it had! The only
Thing that really worries me is the temperature of the machine while gaming. I would be ordering it with thermal paste which I feel would be just fine considering all reviews are just stock and that the paste helps significantly in my experience.
But then I have the RP-15 and the temps are all below 90 even on heavy work loads which seems incredible! So that's why I'm torn on which to go! Plus with the RP-17 being the same price I also thought if I was to get that bigger size that the thermals would be improved more due to more air flow being able to. But that battery only being 62w is killer
If you're getting the A15, make sure you select the display panel with 72% NTSC instead of 45% NTSC.
For any Aussies that end up here.
This device is sold under "Infinity Gaming" as the O5-4R7R6-888.
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