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Title: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: Redaktion on August 10, 2019, 08:45:03
The XPS 15 is back with new Core i9 options, new GTX Turing graphics options, and new 4K UHD OLED options. We test the highest-end configuration of the XPS 15 7590 to see what the latest series can offer when it's supposedly at its best.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Power-Overwhelming-Dell-XPS-15-7590-Core-i9-and-GeForce-GTX-1650-OLED-Laptop-Review.428748.0.html
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: Tony on August 10, 2019, 10:27:54
How is the display only getting 86% when OLED is the best options you can get in the market and it's decently calibrated from the factory??  :o
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: cpu-liebhaber on August 10, 2019, 16:17:55
PWM with 59 Hertz?? "Unless if your eyes are super-sensitive to onscreen flickering, however, then you're likely not going to notice." yeah, right.
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: A on August 10, 2019, 16:36:12
90% with 50C temperature? No laptop with that kind of temperature should get even 80%. Cause its going to bite you in terms of killing your battery and components.

@Tony - probably due to the PWM flickering?
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: Bas on August 10, 2019, 17:35:05
would development and not using the Nvidia have better battery life? And does that fall under "productivity"?
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: Chun Qiu on August 10, 2019, 18:03:03
90% for this machine with uneven architecture (i.e. the core i9 and the new gpu deserve another case and cooling solution), I would like to wait for the review of the X1 Extreme gen 2 and the Zbook 14u g6 before deciding where to invest. I feel that the X1 Extreme gen 2 can be at least 91% and the Zbook g6 can be a surprise this year.
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: cmd on August 10, 2019, 21:30:37
QuoteXPS laptops are particularly sensitive to driver versions

I'm curious if others have found that to be the case. I've been able to use a mix of Dell and manufacturer's drivers (Intel, Nvidia, Broadcom) with no ill effects.
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: Ariliquin on August 11, 2019, 04:29:14
90%? Really NoteBookCheck. You did an amazing job of highlighting real world issues, then give this a 90% rating that does not reflect your own findings. You outlined this is the poorest gaming performance of comparable notebooks then go on to give it a 100% Games Performance Rating. This makes NO sense. 

Games Performance 93 / 85 → 100%

Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: Gary on August 11, 2019, 06:44:18
Wow, all the negatives and it still gets 90 score

Seriously damaging your credability NBC!
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: rating on August 11, 2019, 09:26:59
Yeah, I think the % rating system here is broken, if you want to know whether to buy the laptop or not read the whole review and know what you're looking for in terms of performance/noise/temperatures.  They're good reviews, but the rating system is broken and not a reliable means to decide on whether the laptop is worthy of purchase.
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: not_anton on August 11, 2019, 21:28:59
Wow, idle power of 19W on a closed laptop deep inside your backpack is just asking for troubles... I hope Dell and Microsoft will figure it out soon!

Off topic: "Power Overwhelming" in title and "it's also the slowest iteration of the i9-9980HK and GTX 1650 we've tested on a laptop thus far" in conclusion is LOL
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15
Post by: Mauri on August 11, 2019, 22:46:20
You didn't try grey backgrounds to test vertical banding issue
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: Steve C on August 12, 2019, 08:43:35
90% for a hot, buggy mess?

There have been major issues on the XPS for years that have not been resolved.

Paid review?
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: Mark Mas on August 12, 2019, 17:26:47
90% for this? Really... DPC...
Nothing written about speakers?

For the price of this laptop it's totally unacceptable.
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: william blake on August 13, 2019, 06:38:59
no way man, fk this "we can do top hardware in a slim&light" trend.
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: william blake on August 13, 2019, 06:41:58
Quote from: rating on August 11, 2019, 09:26:59
Yeah, I think the % rating system here is broken, if you want to know whether to buy the laptop or not read the whole review and know what you're looking for in terms of performance/noise/temperatures.  They're good reviews, but the rating system is broken and not a reliable means to decide on whether the laptop is worthy of purchase.
haha i just said something similar in a dell-ryzen thread. nice to see a colleague.
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: Valentijn on August 13, 2019, 14:34:25
Please change your rating system...
90% for a laptop that gets insanely hot and that still suffers from the same issues as back in 2015-2016...
The keyboard is spongy, the laptop gets hot and underperforms relative to other laptops, due to sourcing you could get a sluggish SSD, there are many reviews about huge FPS drops during gaming due to the thermally limited chassis, the speakers are still at the bottom of the laptop, huge power draw during sleep mode, only the core i9 gets decent heat pipes - which is just plain stupid as the core i7 needs it too,...
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: Russell on August 14, 2019, 19:29:11
Can anybody recommend a good laptop with i7 8th gen, 16GB RAM, 4GB VRAM, fast SSD, excellent display for graphics.
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: william blake on August 17, 2019, 12:22:43
Quote from: Russell on August 14, 2019, 19:29:11
Can anybody recommend a good laptop with i7 8th gen, 16GB RAM, 4GB VRAM, fast SSD, excellent display for graphics.
without price range this request has no answer.
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: Steven Mitchell on August 19, 2019, 20:54:50
In your review you infer that XPS 15 7590 is using the GTX 1650 graphics card. I have this system and can not configure it to exclusively use the GTX card over the i9-9980HK internal 630 graphics. Therefore I do not believe your graphics benchmarks are correctly representing the GTX 1650 card they are representing the 630 GPU.
My biggest beef with this system is that it also cannot run any external monitors at 4K @ 60Hz. I was expecting to run 2 4K monitors, Not! The best I can tell the 630 GPU does not support 2x 4K @ 60Hz configuration. I know the GTX 1650 can. :o
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: Mate on September 01, 2019, 17:51:53
#16
They dont care, I said similar thing in last 'review' of macbook pro 15(i9):
-i9 slower than i7✔
-loud as jet ✔
-very hot under load  ✔
-no ports whatsoever ✔
-garbage keyboard  ✔
Overall note? 91%, with XPS same thing. It is throttling heavily, have as every XPS laptop many issues, still 90% is minimum!

#19 UHD 630 should easily output 2 x 4k monitor setup. Maybe you should reinstall drivers?
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: ANdR on September 16, 2019, 07:17:26
Would you guys recommend buying XPS 7590 with just Intel graphics (no dGPU) and i7 cpu for work? I'm not going to play games on it but will the problems be less without dGPU and when i7 (or even i5) CPU is used?
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: tit7 on October 07, 2019, 12:28:30
Hey,

Be careful, that Benchmark results seem to be incorrect in this article.
The sawtooth form of power consumption curve in Prime95 and 1.8-2.7 GHz frequency oscillation is a result of incorrect Intel Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework driver operation. You need to remove latest Driver (A03) and install previous version 8.1.10605.221, A02 from Dell Site. Then the power consumption will be stabilized and processor will run at 95-99 degree continuously without sudden throttling, thus resulting in stable 3.1-3.2GHz for this machine. 
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: bob on November 03, 2019, 18:53:45
Looking for the review of Dell XPS 15 7590 (i7-9750H, GTX 1650, 15.6" 4K UHD (3840 x 2160) , Touch IPS 100% Adobe RGB 500-Nits display), thanks.
Title: Re: Power Overwhelming: Dell XPS 15 7590 Core i9 and GeForce GTX 1650 OLED Laptop Review
Post by: Amartya Bhattacharya on November 20, 2019, 05:46:42
Are we ever going to see reviews of the other SKUs of this device? I'd love to see a review of the model with the 9750h and 4k non-OLED display.