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Title: A real Core i5 competitor: AMD Ryzen 7 3750H strikes hard against the Intel Core i5-9300H
Post by: Redaktion on May 25, 2019, 23:42:07
The 12 nm 35 W Ryzen 7 3750H is essentially on par with the 14 nm 45 W Core i5-8300H and even i5-9300H in terms of multi-threaded performance. Now, all that's left is for more OEMs to adopt the Ryzen H-series so more budget-conscious or mainstream gamers can benefit from the generally less expensive AMD parts.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/A-real-Core-i5-competitor-AMD-Ryzen-7-3750H-strikes-hard-against-the-Intel-Core-i5-9300H.421919.0.html
Title: Re: A real Core i5 competitor: AMD Ryzen 7 3750H strikes hard against the Intel Core i5-9300H
Post by: jeremy on May 26, 2019, 00:07:47
Again, as noted in your last Ryzen-H cheerleading article, there needs to be more than 12 PCIe lanes for that to happen.

One dGPU at 8 lanes and one NVMe at 4 lanes... and there is nothing else left.

No space for Gbe (1 lanes), WiFi (only uses one lane, though the slot is wired for 2 lanes), fast SD card reader (1 lane), and definitely not TB3 (2-4 lanes).

Given it's also 1 generation behind the rest of the Ryzen lineup (still "12nm," when 7nm is launching in the next few days), PCIe4.0 isn't a thing yet, and will not be there to help out.

Of course, one could just link the dGPU at 4 lanes, as I believe the two ASUS Ryzen-H laptops have done. That being said, unlike DESKTOP PCIe scaling, any setup with Optimus (or AMD's equivalent) is much more impacted by PCIe bandwidth, since the full framebuffer has to be dumped via the PCIe port, rather than directly over DP/HDMI to a monitor.
Title: Re: A real Core i5 competitor: AMD Ryzen 7 3750H strikes hard against the Intel Core i5-9300H
Post by: Amd on May 26, 2019, 09:12:03
So the best amd can offer now is on par with last gen i5 . That's very impressive .
Title: Re: A real Core i5 competitor: AMD Ryzen 7 3750H strikes hard against the Intel Core i5-9300H
Post by: Let on May 26, 2019, 09:37:10
On par with the 9th Gen i5, which is Intel's best current gen stuff, you mug!

Furthermore, try to learn how to read. Its a 35W Ryzen CPU matching Intel's 45W CPU!

Idiot Intel fangirls!
Title: Re: A real Core i5 competitor: AMD Ryzen 7 3750H strikes hard against the Intel Core i5-9300H
Post by: Opinionated Reader on May 26, 2019, 11:30:51
@Let,

The Irony is that you've missed the very first sentence on the article "The 12 nm 35 W Ryzen 7 3750H is essentially on par with the 14 nm 45 W Core i5-8300H and even i5-9300H", the editors of Notebookcheck are fair in their review of AMD laptop/processors. There is no need to keep mentioning the wattage difference if you analyse performance. The only gripes I have with them is that they dont mention wether all security patches have been applied. Which can/will sway scores towards unaffected processors and will worsen Intel's great idle power consumption and performance. If I'm not mistaken Win10 doesn't apply all fixes and notebookcheck hasn't retested every laptop after "Zombieload" or most other issues. This might not be important if windows doesn't apply the patches but power users and linux users are going to see different results.

I get the need to criticise AMD based articles because it would be a shame if they are pushed out of the market again on the basis of slightly worse scores and reviews while they have several interesting products. Though this isn't the right way to do it.

Note; reCAPTCHA seems to get blocked by firefox as a "tracker" Anyone know how to whitelist notebookcheck/recaptcha?
Title: Re: A real Core i5 competitor: AMD Ryzen 7 3750H strikes hard against the Intel Core i5-9300H
Post by: Let on June 10, 2019, 21:05:48
@Opinionated Reader,

Of course the power usage in watts must always be taken into consideration, you idiot! How desperate are you to defend Intel crap by suggesting that we conveniently ignore that Intel uses nearly 50% more power!?!

Performance always comes with power consumption considerations. Intel has been over-clocking their 14nm CPUs to dope up and achieve higher clock speeds. That is the only reason they can keep up with AMD.

Lower power consumption with the same or better performance means you are basically having a free lunch. Lower power bills for your PC/workstation, less heat, better or the environment. Less heat from your laptop, smaller better laptops, longer battery life and lower battery life cycle. What do you not understand about the power advantages?

Its the fangirls like you that are too dumb to understand the significance!