Not exciting that's expected
Quote from: Tanishq Hooda on June 05, 2026, 21:34:04Not exciting that's expected
A minimum 15% boost to the top turbo is pretty exciting.
If they give the budget 10-core Zen 6 a 6.2 GHz turbo with 10% IPC gain, that should outperform the i9-14900KS.
1440p relative performance:techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/19.html
9800X3D: 100% (100/97.2 -> 2.9% faster than predecessor)
7800X3D: 97.2% (97.2/91.9 -> 5.8% faster than predecessor)
5800X3D: 91.7%
Applications relative performance:techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/27.html
9800X3D: 100% (17.5% faster than predecessor)
7800X3D: 85.1% (25% faster than predecessor)
5800X3D: 68.1%
The 12-core CCD is going to be the biggest reason to upgrade, but for pure gaming, probably not.
Clock speed:techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/26.html
9800X3D: 5.2 GHz (4 nm) (4% faster than predecessor)
7800X3D: 5.0 GHz (5 nm) (11% faster than predecessor)
5800X3D: 4.5 GHz (7 nm)
I believe the 6.5 GHz clock when I see it.
QuoteJumping straight into the potential Zen 6 clock speeds, MLID initially leaked that the big "classic" Zen 6 cores could boast a crazy 7 GHz boost frequency. This is possible because AMD's alleged use of TSMC's cutting-edge N2X 2 nm node for the 12-core CCDs.
MLID now claims that Zen 6 will "100%" clock above 6.5 GHz.
Ok, so first it's 7 GHz (who would believe that tho), now it's 6.5 GHz (still hard to believe), in 6 months it's going to be 6 GHz and in another 6 months/on release/announcement date, it's going to be 5.5-5.8 GHz.
Nothing is being eaten as hot as it's being cooked.
Quote from: Anonymousgg on June 06, 2026, 04:51:46Quote from: Tanishq Hooda on June 05, 2026, 21:34:04Not exciting that's expected
If they give the budget 10-core Zen 6
AMD doesn't care about budget desktop just like they don't care about their apus.
If it's good they'll overcharge like $450 for it and if it's not they'll still overcharge $350+ for stagnation.
Vanilla versions will be mediocre as hell, that will most likely be beaten by 9600x3d.
The only cpus they care about are x3d's which will be like a $700+. Then they'll delay launching / bringing the same x3d tech to lower end cpus by like 5 years. Only to then finally eventually bring them under the guise of "platform support" longevity when we all know hey could of done so right from the beginning.
He's right. Nothing to be excited for. Predictable. Always massive disappointment.
Don't worry though. MLID will hype up every release just like he glazes his hp halo laptop with mediatek WiFi.
Great job by AMD; the jump to AMD Zen 6 will be almost the death knell for Intel.
Now all that remains is for iGPUs in laptops to be far superior with RDNA 5, which is what everyone expects, and a new microarchitecture from AMD Zen 6. And most importantly, the prices shouldn't be as high as those launched by Intel and Pantherlake, impossible to buy here in Europe at almost €2,000 for a chip with only 4Xe3 cores—a disgrace from Intel, all under the guise of 18A. Now we'll see who has done their job: Intel with 18A or TSMC with 2N.
Quote from: nothingburger-rumorcareer on June 06, 2026, 09:43:32QuoteMLID initially leaked that the big "classic" Zen 6 cores could boast a crazy 7 GHz boost frequency.
MLID now claims that Zen 6 will "100%" clock above 6.5 GHz.
Ok, so first it's 7 GHz (who would believe that tho), now it's 6.5 GHz (still hard to believe), in 6 months it's going to be 6 GHz and in another 6 months/on release/announcement date, it's going to be 5.5-5.8 GHz.
There are no contradictions/inconsistencies in these mlid's statements, apply some cognition.
Quote from: Knownbg on June 06, 2026, 10:36:54He's right. Nothing to be excited for. Predictable. Always massive disappointment.
It's not like you're entitled to amd products, just buy intel/Qualcomm instead, but I doubt anything would be able to satisfy your ego.
QuoteOnly to then finally eventually bring them under the guise of "platform support" longevity when we all know hey could of done so right from the beginning.
No, they could not release such products from the get go because they are supposed to be defects, Which you first need to build inventory of, otherwise they would be forced to artificially handicap high end chips.
idk. Didn't Tom say previously that RDNA 4m was pretty much 3.5 + hardware ml upscaling blocks? But in this video he made it seem like a massive leap in perf / watt and way more bandwidth efficient similar to desktop rdna4. So which one is it exactly?
That seems like a possible contradiction from previous statements I'll say.
Quote from: InLight on June 06, 2026, 21:34:59just buy intel/Qualcomm instead, but I doubt anything would be able to satisfy your ego.
No ego. Just a pessimist who will always find something to rant/moan about.
My issue with intel/qcomm is largely the same. Terrible gpu drivers which make them a no go for me.
Quote from: InLight on June 06, 2026, 21:34:59they are supposed to be defects, Which you first need to build inventory of
What you just stated here doesn't just apply to x3d but vanilla CPUs as well. Why don't we see a massive delay between the launch of 6 core and 8 core vanilla CPUs then? After all, 9600x/7600x are just defective 9700x/7700x but we see all these launch and mass produced at the same time from day 0.
A renowned leaker MLID is leaking a new leak to clarify previous leaks.
As I know，AMD ZEN6 top frequnecy sacrifice its relibility. I suggest you need purchase the first batch of it if you want to try. or it will trasfer to HVM , HVM guys just focus on their KPI and release marrgin. you can try top frequency when you just open box.