8 GB VRAM for 2,999 Euros(~$3529)..is this a joke? It costs approx twice as much as I would have expected..
Jun 25, 2024: youtube.com/watch?v=dx4En-2PzOU: "How Much VRAM Do Gamers Need? 8GB, 12GB, 16GB or MORE?"
Apr 9, 2025: youtube.com/watch?v=e4GCxObZrZE: "This is what happens when you run out of VRAM... Say NO to 8GB GPUs!"
Aug 22, 2025: youtube.com/watch?v=ric7yb1VaoA: "Gaming Laptops are in Trouble - VRAM Testing w/ ‪@Hardwareunboxed‬"
It will only get worse, as more and more people move to the PS5' 16 GB VRAM.
But why are only 8 GB such an issue?Big AAA games are often developed for consoles first and the PS5 has 16 GB VRAM. Yes, unlike in a PC, some of it is used by the OS, but not 8 GB, more like 4 GB, and so it becomes 8 GB VRAM dGPU vs 12 GB VRAM.
I would not even blame the game developers for not optimizing, because time is money and I don't think it's easy to optimize and fit 12 GB of content into 8 GB.
Let me give you an alternative this time: Ever though about building/getting a desktop PC for half or even a third [for the same performance] of the price and if you don't mind too much, you can get even used parts. Repairability and upgradability are an another advantage. Or 2-3x better performance for the same price..imagine..you could get a 16 GB VRAM GPU and a 360 Hz QD-OLED. Do you really need a gaming laptop? Do you really travel and have nothing better to-do than to game?
Soldered RAM would be ok if it was 64 GB RAM at this price (and at least 16 GB VRAM at 256-bit, no clamshell VRAM design bs). But RAM can go bad and if it's soldered..
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Eww, looks still nasty. Known problem that may come with a touch screen.
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Oh Oh, not good either.
Quote from: 3000 for 8 GB VRAM? on Today at 10:27:17I would not even blame the game developers for not optimizing, because time is money and I don't think it's easy to optimize and fit 12 GB of content into 8 GB.
Oh, I would. Have you seen some of the switch ports? Porting latest modern games like sparking zero to a 10 year old tablet SoC with 4 GB ram. Granted it's not the heaviest title but still it among other ports like Witcher 3 are impressive.
If you try to run these same games on pc, you need way more powerful hardware to run at same frame rates for the pc port versions.
What it shows is if the platform is big enough dev's will be willing to invest time in it. There are games that run suboptimal on Series X even though it has tons of memory, mainly because nobody cares about Xbox anymore.
Quote from: 3000 for 8 GB VRAM? on Today at 10:27:178 GB VRAM for 2,999 Euros(~$3529)..is this a joke? It costs approx twice as much as I would have expected..
There's no competition in laptop dgpu space. They could charge more. Wonder what's stopping them. It's not like amd even exists as an option here unlike desktop.
I would honestly prefer more raster over vram at this point. Not that I don't like vram but until we get to a point where like we're at desktop rtx 3070 ti levels of performance in igpus. Because right now that's still the main limiting factor in games. We're still at gtx 1660 or below levels of performance. Talking about more mainstream igpus like 890m not halo.
Quote from: 3000 for 8 GB VRAM? on Today at 10:27:17Let me give you an alternative this time: Ever though about building/getting a desktop PC
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Do you really need a gaming laptop? Do you really travel and have nothing better to-do than to game?
No, don't need a gaming laptop at these prices. And it's not necessarily about travelling but more some people maybe in an environment where there's a lack of space. Not everyone wants to have massive towers.
egpu might be a solution but the problem is it doesn't resolve pricing issues. The ones with egpu 16GB vram are often expensive and the cheaper ones are still 8GB.
The only mainstream device atm with 16GB vram and cheap is the ps5 tbh.