Now if we could get this to gain traction in the US as well that would be great.
Thank you Pirate Software for shooting yourself in the foot so hard that even EU officials are backing the movement. Without your stupidity, and the phenomena known as the Streisand effect, we might have stayed a relatively unknown movement. I pray the US takes note as well and employs similar pro consumer legislation.
It amazes that there are people out there that will disagree with this. I got in an argument once with my cousin because he said buying used games is stupid, how will the developers make money he said. Don't care I bought it it's mine!
If this does pass I wonder how this will effect live service games... I'm guessing if they find out you are cheating or hacking rolls in a gatcha for instance they will ban your account from the online version, but depending how this bill would work that could also be illegal for them to do that too. So that could be a problem right there, I don't want hackers ruining everything either.
Quote from: SSchorik0101 on July 17, 2025, 14:14:59Now if we could get this to gain traction in the US as well that would be great.
The thing is, even if it doesn't, just it becoming a law in the EU, the US gamers would benefit. If the game is released in the EU (which most games are), they have to comply with the rules of the EU anyways.
Quote from: Zarathustra on July 17, 2025, 20:32:10It amazes that there are people out there that will disagree with this. I got in an argument once with my cousin because he said buying used games is stupid, how will the developers make money he said. Don't care I bought it it's mine!
How is it any different from any used item? On top of that in terms of games, many are already funded by DLCs and microtransactions.
On top of that, this is mostly not about used games but end of life games. Games that would stop working because the developer doesn't want to support it anymore and not selling it anymore. So it doesn't have any impact at all on developer income other than you choosing to play the old version rather than repurchase a new remastered version or the next game.
QuoteIf this does pass I wonder how this will effect live service games... I'm guessing if they find out you are cheating or hacking rolls in a gatcha for instance they will ban your account from the online version, but depending how this bill would work that could also be illegal for them to do that too. So that could be a problem right there, I don't want hackers ruining everything either.
It isn't a problem at all, the regulation just prevents them from blocking your access to the game, it does not guarantee you access to an online service.
What that means is that they can still ban you from THEIR servers. But still let you run locally by yourself or use a private server. Or they can simply have a different server for cheaters and when you get banned, instead of a full ban you just get sent to the cheater server to play with other cheaters.
If anything, sending people to a cheater server is a better option than outright banning to begin with.
I don't care about live service games. If a game is single player and has some sort of online service and the game stops being supported just disable the feature don't disconnect my whole single player game.
Plus if I buy something it's mine, I'm not buying a license or some sort renters agreement or leasing contract.
I don't get my money back once they terminate the service.
Now for multi-player games I don't care.
I wish I could remove drm and denovue just to have backups of the games I purchased so they don't terminate my product, piracy wouldn't be needed anymore if we could.