I love the ulefones, I started with the 3, and have owned several since including the armor 27 pro. The pho.es are great outside the US, the become so problematic, I used my 27 for 2 months on two different providers and I finally threw it away. You have connection issues, then can't get group mess a ges, no voice mail. When I bought the 27, from ule, ot specifically state on the company website works with Verizon, two weeks later, works with t-mobile, tried both and gave up, you can have mine if you want the pain to fight with ule