The 2024 Mac mini launched as a more capable mini PC than its predecessor. It also has a tweaked design, making it more compact than the last-gen model. As for the power button, Apple has explained why it's on the bottom.https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-explains-why-2024-Mac-mini-has-power-button-on-bottom.915221.0.html
Ah, they pulled the classic "it's not a bug, it's a feature" lol 🤣
If possible mount it where the power button is showing problem solved
definitely yes, it is a feature designed to keep non-apple customers upset and away ... tim cook's scorpio style!
Quote from: joejoe on November 09, 2024, 11:22:38Ah, they pulled the classic "it's not a bug, it's a feature" lol 🤣
"Of course, the relocated power button could make things a little tricky when the 2024 Mac mini is mounted on the back of a display or a TV. The vice presidents didn't talk about this, and it's possible that Apple may not factored in this installation case when deciding on the design."
Of course it did, as said it is a feature designed to keep...blah...blah...blah.
If this is the biggest criticism of the Mini it's a testament to their incredible reception. Apple now sells the most affordable high performance PCs and laptops without compromising on build quality and features. But the button you almost never need to use might have been placed in a slightly awkward location (or maybe a location that prevents it from being accidentally pressed?). And if you mount a PC behind a TV any power button is harder to reach.
Quote from: non-scorpio on November 09, 2024, 20:06:05it is a feature designed to keep non-apple customers upset and away
Notch is such a feature.
The power button serves a different purpose: It keeps Apple fan reviewers saying "The only flaw" so that iSheep pays any amount for upselling, which many reviewers play down or even forgo.
Quote from: valuearb on November 09, 2024, 21:03:36Apple now sells the most affordable high performance PCs and laptops without compromising on build quality and features.
Stop brainwashing us. Some CPU / iGPU benchmark in class wins do not equate "high performance PCs". Some aspects of build quality and some features are not "without compromising" (compromises such as fan instead of silent, or no USB-A).
So it has been USB-C or the new iPhone's Camera Button ... same keep non-apple customers within its race.
Quote from: RobertJasiek on November 09, 2024, 21:08:18Notch is such a feature.
and what about the best non-apple screen aspect ratio of 16.6:10
or what about the best non-apple mobiles' screen aspect ratio of 83:37
A year ago these people at Apple claimed 8gb of RAM was plenty and justified it on a pro laptop. Then a year later we see all Mac's at base start with 16Gb even those models that originally were sold with 8gb. Power button on bottom is about as logical as a charge port on the bottom of a mouse.
it is not about criticism ... is all about discrimination
Quote from: valuearb on November 09, 2024, 21:03:36If this is the biggest criticism...
placing the POWER button at the 'BOTTOM' has an iMeaning
The mouse then the notch then this? Conspiracy theories or cover up
and much much more to come
Quote from: aindriu on November 09, 2024, 23:28:17Conspiracy theories or cover up
You can just mount it with the TOP attached to the monitor, problem solved.
Soon to be announced by Apple Marketing:
The optional $79.95 M4 Mac mini stand, which is 1 inch in height and raises the mini "for optimal cooling, and easier power switch access".
For the European market, there will be a separate product available for €89.95 that is 2.5 cm high.
Apple TV first gen didn't have a power button
QuoteMost users leave their Mac powered on, ... So, in general, the power button is used only when users need to force restart or force shutdown the system
So... daily. Leaving the computer on for days can make the system unstable.
Some people might also think it's not a big issue when you access the button in such a awkward way - but it is: I got a computermouse which had the DPI button on its bottom, and every time I switch the computer on and off, the DPI reset to its default setting. Thus I had to set the DPI every day. This became so annoying, that I finally left the DPI at its default setting.
The same will happen on this Mac Mini. Switching it on and off will become so annoying, that people will probably just leave it on. But maybe that's what Apple actually wants? Maybe it's on purpose. But I wouldn't like that. As I said, I experienced that this makes the system unstable over time. So it's absolutely idiotic to put the power button on such an idiotic place.
yea right what a piece of crap... what can you do with 16gbram? even chrome with 10 tabs will eat it in seconds, not to mention 256gb space and 0 upgrade possibility.... only members of the cult would buy this overpriced junk...
can use the mac mini upside down.
I vote for everybody to calm down please
If you need to mount it on the back of a TV or monitor can't you just mount it with the bottom facing out?
Quote from: Hotz on November 10, 2024, 09:52:09QuoteMost users leave their Mac powered on, ... So, in general, the power button is used only when users need to force restart or force shutdown the system
So... daily. Leaving the computer on for days can make the system unstable.
Tell me you're not a Mac user without telling me you're not a Mac user.
Macs don't become "unstable" if you leave them on. There have been times where I left my previous M1 mini on for WEEKS. Guess what? It never became "unstable".
Most Mac users just sleep their computer instead of shutting it down because (thanks to Apple Silicon) they consume SO little power.
eventually you will pay for a monthly subscription for the ability to shut down.
I turn my Mac on and off 1-3x times per day. I want it locked and unable to be accessed, as well as I do video editing and find DaVinci resolve starts having issues when it's left on for too long. The button isn't a huge issue, but it will be something I deal with for the next 4 years on a daily basis. 250x per year x 4 years means that I will be pushing that button a minimum of 1000x. Yay.
Quote from: not wozniak on November 10, 2024, 10:06:48yea right what a piece of crap... what can you do with 16gbram? even chrome with 10 tabs will eat it in seconds, not to mention 256gb space and 0 upgrade possibility.... only members of the cult would buy this overpriced junk...
Sorry ROTFLMAO!!!
Currently 2013 MBP with 8GB RAM and >160 tabs open in Firefox works just fine. :)
If the power button is such an issue for some why not just put the mini on its side...then the power button is right at your fingers. Too simple?
just screw with screws the top plate underneath a wooden table, but make sure the rotten fishfruit logo facing the wood is still. now finally the power button will be accessible and free
monitor screen aspect ratio of 16.6:10
mobile screen aspect ratio of 83:37
and more ....
Apple wants you to keep your computer running 24/7 so there's no disruption in the data stream. Just like your smart phone or other 'always there, always listening' device(s). Surveillance is the objective. The next generation won't even have a power button. It'll have a voice command to 'go to sleep', but always remain active so that you can wake it up again. Because who wants to be bothered with having to press a power button when they can simply demand it vocally?
Think (Apple's motto, ironically).
Designed by the same guy who put the mouse charging port on the bottom so it couldn't be used. I'm sure he had the same stupid excuse.
Quote from: valuearb on November 09, 2024, 21:03:36If this is the biggest criticism ...
true, but it's still stupid
Pressing a PWR button requires some amount of physical effort deriving to a physical fit
The latest iPhone has one more new CAM button so what you are saying is a bit confusing
Quote from: cwise on November 11, 2024, 04:24:46Because who wants to be bothered with having to press a power button
If the Mac Mini were mounted on the BACK of a display... why would you mount it power button side toward the display? If it's on the back, mount it so the bottom of the Mac Mini is facing outward...
This is why the VPs didn't address it.
This is the Magic Mouse charging port all over again. That one is on the bottom so dummies can't use the wireless mouse like a wired mouse. Why? Have you seen a teenagers lightning cable? They use their phones plugged in the same way all these mouse geniuses want to use their wireless mouse as a wired mouse. What do you think all that tension and torque will do to the cable and charging port? These critiques come from the same people who think parking lots with speed bumps are poor design because they can't drive 55mph through the lot.
The author obviously didn't think about their "gotcha" display mount scenario any more than the VPs who never considered it in the first place.
really, you can drive that fast in a parking lot...amazing alex...you are my hero!
Quote from: Alexander Castleberry on November 11, 2024, 21:48:25These critiques come from the same people who think parking lots with speed bumps are poor design because they can't drive 55mph through the lot.