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Title: Intel to cancel desktop GPUs if Arc Battlemage fails as terrible AIB support and RTX 4070-like performance leak
Post by: Redaktion on October 25, 2024, 15:54:14
It seems the fate of Intel's discrete GPU division is riding on the success of the Intel Arc Battlemage cards. According to a leak from Moore's Law Is Dead that also reveals the specs and performance of the BMG G31 and G21 dies, Intel is "expected to cancel" the in-development Celestial dGPU if Battlemage fails.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-to-cancel-desktop-GPUs-if-Arc-Battlemage-fails-as-terrible-AIB-support-and-RTX-4070-like-performance-leak.907774.0.html
Title: Re: Intel to cancel desktop GPUs if Arc Battlemage fails as terrible AIB support and RTX 4070-like p
Post by: Jonas Bee on October 25, 2024, 17:39:43
They really need to hurry up and release them already - Arc Alchemy driver support was one thing, but releasing them so late compared to RTX 3000 and RX 6000 cards really hurt as they could not rival RTX 4000/RX 7000 models.

It sounds like Intel's worst enemy is Intel, the shake-up needs to happen and fast.
Title: Re: Intel to cancel desktop GPUs if Arc Battlemage fails as terrible AIB support and RTX 4070-like p
Post by: Worgarthe on October 25, 2024, 18:42:03
Quote from: JUAN_pcbox on October 25, 2024, 18:07:47Intel's new processors.../b]
Do you, retarded spambot, realise that this is about GPUs?
Title: Re: Intel to cancel desktop GPUs if Arc Battlemage fails as terrible AIB support and RTX 4070-like p
Post by: @JUAN_pcbox on October 25, 2024, 21:29:36
Fucking paid spammer
Title: Re: Intel to cancel desktop GPUs if Arc Battlemage fails as terrible AIB support and RTX 4070-like p
Post by: GeorgeS on October 25, 2024, 22:46:20
Team Blue's development of GPU's that MIGHT be used in Gaming is mostly secondary to their desperate need to have something to compete with Nvidia and even AMD in the "AI" space.

So having 'game drivers' for desktop cards (or even remotely 'game ready') is not exactly a priority for them.

Having functional drivers for open source AI software stacks is.

Sorry.
Title: Re: Intel to cancel desktop GPUs if Arc Battlemage fails as terrible AIB support and RTX 4070-like p
Post by: cfb on October 26, 2024, 05:42:39
MLID already claimed that the alchemist weren't coming out and that intel was going to cancel the entire gpu division, and as we can see with battlemage and celestial iGPU's ALREADY BEING IN PRODUCTS that it never happened, there was no "inside info", and that he just made the entire thing up.

Not a valid source of...anything. Nobody inside is talking to that guy.
Title: Re: Intel to cancel desktop GPUs if Arc Battlemage fails as terrible AIB support and RTX 4070-like p
Post by: stevetheborg on October 26, 2024, 06:38:25
Hope not... i want to play Fortnite on one while dressed as a wizard
Title: Re: Intel to cancel desktop GPUs if Arc Battlemage fails as terrible AIB support and RTX 4070-like p
Post by: Jabea on October 26, 2024, 10:23:21
How did the lunar lake igpu beat Radeon 890m? Because I didn't see this in gameplay tests
Title: Re: Intel to cancel desktop GPUs if Arc Battlemage fails as terrible AIB support and RTX 4070-like p
Post by: bobo on October 27, 2024, 07:03:03
4070 performance is not inspiring people (performance may same like 5060 too?),have to see pricing first , if 4060 price but 4070 performance then should be okay
Title: Re: Intel to cancel desktop GPUs if Arc Battlemage fails as terrible AIB support and RTX 4070-like p
Post by: dfgrt6523 on October 27, 2024, 17:51:05
Quote from: JUAN_pcbox on October 25, 2024, 18:07:47Regarding dGPUs, there is still nothing from Intel that surpasses AMD and Nvidia.

You are not correct. In fact, Intel GPU is set to be the best consumer GPU money can buy. The reason is SR-IOV support which is expected in the Battlemage GPUs. I don't no why, but neither nVidia, nor AMD support it. Is it critically important feature to enable graphics hardware acceleration inside virtual machines. Without it, you can't run VMs comfortably in your desktop system, so can't have good Qubes OS experience either
Title: Re: Intel to cancel desktop GPUs if Arc Battlemage fails as terrible AIB support and RTX 4070-like p
Post by: Latz on October 29, 2024, 08:25:11
Quote from: dfgrt6523 on October 27, 2024, 17:51:05
Quote from: JUAN_pcbox on October 25, 2024, 18:07:47Regarding dGPUs, there is still nothing from Intel that surpasses AMD and Nvidia.

You are not correct. In fact, Intel GPU is set to be the best consumer GPU money can buy. The reason is SR-IOV support which is expected in the Battlemage GPUs. I don't no why, but neither nVidia, nor AMD support it. Is it critically important feature to enable graphics hardware acceleration inside virtual machines. Without it, you can't run VMs comfortably in your desktop system, so can't have good Qubes OS experience either

Did you actually read what you said?
Read through it again.

While I really, really want more competition in the space Intel would still need a few generations of maturing (and they really need it too) to even be considered an actual viable competitor by the average consumer cause the average consumer is not really a tech person.

"Intel GPU is set to be the best consumer GPU money can buy. The reason is SR-IOV support which is expected in the Battlemage GPUs"

The average consumer not only wouldn't care about this at all, if the saw SR-IOV on the box or being mentioned anywhere, they both wouldn't know what it is and care even less.

I would be able to use it, the average consumer doesn't even perceive a VM as a thing let a lone need, or want to, run one at home.

It's an utter irrelevance to the general consumer success of the platform.