The Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen 7 has landed with a new design, Intel Core Ultra series CPUs, and up to an RTX 3000 Ada Generation GPU. Interestingly, the machine comes with Micron's LPCAMM2 memory, making it the world's first consumer device to feature the solution. Additionally, the high-end configuration of the laptop rocks an UHD+ OLED panel with a 5 MP IR webcam up top.https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-P1-Gen-7-debuts-with-world-s-first-LPCAMM2-memory-alongside-Intel-Core-Ultra-CPUs.830592.0.html
All great and awesome EXCEPT no Thunderbolt 5. Like why, lol?
No kidding! Where's the TBx/Oculink ports?
They ARE claiming just about everything else here...
I hope this is a render and they re-instate the psysical left, middle and right mouse buttons above the trackpad. Very useful to speed up tedious tasks and I also use the keyboard left mouse button alot when doing precise CAD work so I can concentrate on precision mouse or tablet accuracy.
So it's slower than the Gen 6 which could be configured with an RTX 4090 / RTX 5000?
In fact, the new modules have only one task (as proven by tests of the poor performance of the new modules) - to make it impossible to independently upgrade with cheap memory from retail with a 5-10 year warranty, instead of 3-6 times inflated at the price set from the factory (like ssd ). Because the entire module will have to be replaced and they are not on sale anywhere, especially with higher capacity.
This topic will only be successful with the connivance of the corrupt antimonopoly authorities of all Western countries. Because the introduction of such modules is obviously an oligopolistic conspiracy of large manufacturers. And these modules do not provide any real benefits to laptop buyers, only increased costs.
Quote from: NikoB on April 24, 2024, 13:56:10In fact, the new modules have only one task (as proven by tests of the poor performance of the new modules) - to make it impossible to independently upgrade with cheap memory from retail with a 5-10 year warranty, instead of 3-6 times inflated at the price set from the factory (like ssd ). Because the entire module will have to be replaced and they are not on sale anywhere, especially with higher capacity.
This topic will only be successful with the connivance of the corrupt antimonopoly authorities of all Western countries. Because the introduction of such modules is obviously an oligopolistic conspiracy of large manufacturers. And these modules do not provide any real benefits to laptop buyers, only increased costs.
Dude, go home. You're drunk. We'll have to switch to something else than SODIMM at some point and it's absolutely long overdue. Even more now that iGPUs need fast RAM.
Still has a proprietary charger to haul around, or can it charge via USB now?
Quote from: Nitrobear on April 24, 2024, 14:43:17Dude, go home. You're drunk. We'll have to switch to something else than SODIMM at some point and it's absolutely long overdue. Even more now that iGPUs need fast RAM.
Compared to me, you have never woken up from a comatose state in your life.
I am the one who has been writing for years that igpu should have memory an order of magnitude faster than the current one. And CAMM modules do not solve this problem in any way.
But HBM3e is solved by memory soldered on the board in the amount of at least 16GB, with a bandwidth of at least 500GB/s.
Quote from: NikoB on April 24, 2024, 21:42:21I am the one who has been writing for years that igpu should have memory an order of magnitude faster than the current one. And CAMM modules do not solve this problem in any way.
But HBM3e is solved by memory soldered on the board in the amount of at least 16GB, with a bandwidth of at least 500GB/s.
Do you even know what CAMM is ? It's litteraly upgradable soldered memory. It uses less space than so-dimm and less power (It's lpddr5(x)) is as upgradable as so-dimm. While the costs will probably be higher, it will go down once it's properly used by all manufacturers, just like sata vs nvme ssds.
Is it possible to disable the Nvidia GPU and still use external displays? Or, in other words, are the external display connectors still wired to the discrete Nvidia GPU? Nvidia and Optimus are a horrible pain in Linux.
Ugh. I've held out hope for the P1 since it's the only Thinkpad model with a larger screen and a proper centered keyboard...
That said, there's still no AMD option, the "upgradeable" RAM isn't available anywhere yet, it's still going to require a large proprietary charger because of the power hungry Intel/Nvidia components, as someone else already mentioned if it's the latest Intel, why no TB5?... And they ditched the physical buttons?!?!
So much for there being any decent thinkpads with a screen larger than 14 inches around anymore.
ISSUES with the Lenovo ThinkPad P1 G7 (2024) laptop:
- lacks RTX 4090 option
- lacks 240W USB C charging
- thicker bezels vs competition
- keyboard could have kept 1.8mm travel of G1-G3
- still no AMD Ryzen 9 HS processor model
- released too late in the year (May)
- RTX 5090 is around the corner (Nov)
- not available in white or silver
- useless tapered design limits space for battery and cooling
- no Thermal Grizzly liquid metal on both CPU & GPU
- GPU not operating with 100W
Quote from: DisappointedCCP on May 06, 2024, 12:21:11ISSUES with the Lenovo ThinkPad P1 G7 (2024) laptop:
- lacks RTX 4090 option
It doesn't because it's useless in such a thin chassis with limited TGP.
Quote from: DisappointedCCP on May 06, 2024, 12:21:11- lacks 240W USB C charging
It supports it.
Quote from: DisappointedCCP on May 06, 2024, 12:21:11- thicker bezels vs competition
Better durability without self-cracking bezels like on Dell's XPSes, good thing.
Quote from: DisappointedCCP on May 06, 2024, 12:21:11- keyboard could have kept 1.8mm travel of G1-G3
I agree with this.
Quote from: DisappointedCCP on May 06, 2024, 12:21:11- still no AMD Ryzen 9 HS processor model
You won't ever find an AMD in a laptop designed and developed together by Intel and Lenovo. Intel is faster, more power efficient, runs cooler and it has better battery life anyways than AMD:
Intel vs AMD Laptops in 2024 - What a Mess... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnHUmaEjwXU) (Hardware Canucks @ YT)
Quote from: DisappointedCCP on May 06, 2024, 12:21:11- released too late in the year (May)
- RTX 5090 is around the corner (Nov)
So it is released too late... but it is released 6 months too early? The RTX 5000 lineup won't become immediately available for OEMs.
Quote from: DisappointedCCP on May 06, 2024, 12:21:11- not available in white or silver
Not also in red, blue, green, yellow, purple...
Quote from: DisappointedCCP on May 06, 2024, 12:21:11- useless tapered design limits space for battery and cooling
Not sure how do you know nor where did you see that because the device was just announced, no info about internal design was given (apart from renders in a commercial).
Quote from: DisappointedCCP on May 06, 2024, 12:21:11- no Thermal Grizzly liquid metal on both CPU & GPU
It could be useful but it is not needed with TDP and TGP under 300W combined.
Quote from: DisappointedCCP on May 06, 2024, 12:21:11- GPU not operating with 100W
Thin and light chassis. Grab thicker P16 G2 if you want 80W+ TGP.
Quote from: Neenyah on May 06, 2024, 15:51:30Quote from: DisappointedCCP on May 06, 2024, 12:21:11ISSUES with the Lenovo ThinkPad P1 G7 (2024) laptop:
- lacks RTX 4090 option
It doesn't because it's useless in such a thin chassis with limited TGP.
The 4090 provides better performance at a given TGP, i.e., an 80W 4090 performs better than an 80W 4080. That's the entire point of putting it in a thin chassis - to maximize performance for the size. Side note: the 4090 in the P1 G6 is actually 105W.
I fully agree on the below and would like to apologise for sounding rude.
I was doing cocaine with my neighbour's ex-wife again and turned into an impotent keyboard warrior. Will speak to my mommy.
4090 would have been a good idea.
I am a very unemployed, fake gay.