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Title: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in official announcement as tech giant bows to EU regulations
Post by: Redaktion on January 26, 2024, 00:24:47
Apple is not happy about it, but the company now allows EU users to sideload apps onto its iPhones. Apple announced changes to how it handles apps on iOS in order to align with the European Union's Digital Markets Act. It also announced new App Store pricing and an App Store Fee calculator, which has some developers concerned.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-begrudgingly-allows-app-sideloading-third-party-app-stores-bemoans-security-risks-in-official-announcement-as-tech-giant-bows-to-EU-regulations.797214.0.html
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: haha on January 26, 2024, 01:51:48
EU can start saying goodbye to good popular free apps, for 2 000 000 installs of FREE app from any source developer has to pay apple 45000. Also pirates who thought it'll now be a pirate heaven like Android got nothing. Apple trolled EU good, get your popcorn and enjoy the outrage.
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Hifihedgehog on January 26, 2024, 08:07:27
Sorry haha but Apple did this as defiance, not a troll, and as Microsoft can attest for when they have tried pulling shenanigans like this, it only leads to financial pain. Apple is actually acting worse than Microsoft has in matters like this and their nonsensical explanations that any two-year-old can see through are going to bite them in the butt and hard. Apple is going to regret this big time as the bad PR that will arise from the drama will haunt them for years to come. And right as Qualcomm's Snapdragon X is hitting the market, Microsoft can easily frame themselves as the knight in shining armor and fair option of the two which will certainly hurt MacBook and iPad sales.
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 08:39:50
Quote from: haha on January 26, 2024, 01:51:48EU can start saying goodbye to good popular free apps, for 2 000 000 installs of FREE app from any source developer has to pay apple 45000. Also pirates who thought it'll now be a pirate heaven like Android got nothing. Apple trolled EU good, get your popcorn and enjoy the outrage.
Or just use Android where you as a user have a choice to install whatever tf you want on your own device.
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Gallo123 on January 26, 2024, 09:18:35
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 08:39:50
Quote from: haha on January 26, 2024, 01:51:48EU can start saying goodbye to good popular free apps, for 2 000 000 installs of FREE app from any source developer has to pay apple 45000. Also pirates who thought it'll now be a pirate heaven like Android got nothing. Apple trolled EU good, get your popcorn and enjoy the outrage.
Or just use Android where you as a user have a choice to install whatever tf you want on your own device.

We are at a point where people who haven't helped themselves are too far from help. All the information is out there free and accessible but people choose to fund their own demise instead.


Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 10:26:02
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 08:39:50Or just use Android where you as a user have a choice to install
Can't wait for January 31 to install Death Stranding on my Android... Oh wait
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: anan on January 26, 2024, 11:27:20
If that calculation is correct then it is a big FU to EU. Apple will take in more cash from apps on other stores than from it's own app store. This is clearly to steer developers to their own store.
Wonder if this will pass the smell test for EU regulators? They can require that Apple divorce itself from the whole "sideloading" process. Then Apple will cry "but what about security" and if EU just tells that security will be the purview of the app store provider then Apple will loose at least this argument for requiring this frankly absurd cut of the revenue.
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 11:35:51
Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 10:26:02
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 08:39:50Or just use Android where you as a user have a choice to install
Can't wait for January 31 to install Death Stranding on my Android... Oh wait
Mmm, let me buy an iPhone to play a meh PS4 game on a small screen instead of buying a PS4 for fraction of the iPhone price and play it on a large screen in better detail instead and have enough money left to buy a great Android phone too. Beautiful logic of sticking with a phone because of one game (it's not like you have a larger choice to choose anyways, lmao). Ask your Tim Cook to hurry up, you know, you have no your own will nor choice to do what you want but you want to play so... Let Tim allow you to play. Just make sure to pay even more money to do even less with what you "own". 🍏🐑.
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: sdvsvv on January 26, 2024, 11:53:57
Quote from: anan on January 26, 2024, 11:27:20This is clearly to steer developers to their own store
This is to steer developers away from EU market. And no, it will not affect Apple sales. Europeans will simply create apple IDs in US,UK,whatever nonEU country is nearest and live on without sideloading. No one actually even wanted it except Epic, Spotify, Google and pirates. Spotify wants to sell you goods and show you their ads. Epic wants to create an alternate game store and have that 30% cut for themselves. Google is just attacking Apple money everywhere it can. Pirates wanted to pirate, obviously. The rest of stupid mob was lied they will also benefit from it, but no. Indie devs would just die out if it was FFA android-like sideloading. Also you'd never see a single pay-once AAA game on mobile platform where everyone could just pirate it - much like you don't see them on Android despite platform is capable.

It's Apple way to pull out of market without pulling out of market. This destroys both quality and quantity of apps in EU, only lootbox gacha ad pay to win stuff can survive. Or apps with downloads < 1 mil (useless apps mostly).

Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 11:35:51let me buy an iPhone to play a meh PS4 game on a small screen instead of buying a PS4 for fraction of the iPhone price and play it on a large screen in better detail instead and have enough money left to buy a great Android phone too
Shrinking ray to fit PS4 and TV in your pocket will be quite expensive though. And it's not one game of course.
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 11:58:36
Quote from: sdvsvv on January 26, 2024, 11:53:57Shrinking ray to fit PS4 and TV in your pocket will be quite expensive though.
Always that argument ("argument"?); peak gaming, everyone is playing games on the go, outside, especially in crowded places. Nice.

Quote from: sdvsvv on January 26, 2024, 11:53:57And it's not one game of course.
Of course it's not. But the choice is limited. Consume what Apple allows you to consume, never question.
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 12:02:05
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 11:35:51Mmm, let me buy an iPhone to play a meh PS4 game on a small screen instead of buying a PS4 for fraction of the iPhone price and play it on a large screen in better detail instead and have enough money left to buy a great Android phone too. Beautiful logic of sticking with a phone because of one game (it's not like you have a larger choice to choose anyways, lmao). Ask your Tim Cook to hurry up, you know, you have no your own will nor choice to do what you want but you want to play so... Let Tim allow you to play. Just make sure to pay even more money to do even less with what you "own". 🍏🐑.
someone has to tell this guy base s24 ultra is already $100 more expensive than base 15 pro max

Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 11:58:36everyone is playing games on the go, outside, especially in crowded places. Nice.
yeah and guess what switch is the best selling console

Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 11:58:36Of course it's not. But the choice is limited. Consume what Apple allows you to consume, never question.
okay, but android allows you to consume only pay to win games and fart sound simulators
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 12:12:56
Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 12:02:05someone has to tell this guy base s24 ultra is already $100 more expensive than base 15 pro max
Ah yes, S24 Ultra is the only phone to get there. No wonder that Apple fans can't see past one choice when they don't know for choice at all; seriously, only you "Timmies" are strongly against having any form of freedom and choice what tf to do with your own money; the less you know the better, it's impressive. And then you happily present that as a huge victory and the way to go. Lol.

Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 12:02:05yeah and guess what switch is the best selling console
Because it's the cheapest console to get, yet it is closely followed by quite more expensive PS5. And then you turn around yourself and you don't really see people starring at their screens and playing games wherever you take a look, assuming you leave your home at all though.

Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 12:02:05okay, but android allows you to consume only pay to win games and fart sound simulators
True but who even cares about games on phones; is that all you do on your phone so that's why you need an iPhone to play PS ports? What about all other apps? You do know that they exist, right? It's not just games to install (and to get affected by the point of this whole article here).
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: anan on January 26, 2024, 12:19:07
Am I reading this correctly? Did Apple reduce the cut it takes for apps from 30% to 10%? If so, then this likely was the single win from this whole EU law as everything else seems DoA.
QuoteThis is to steer developers away from EU market. And no, it will not affect Apple sales. Europeans will simply create apple IDs in US,UK,whatever nonEU country is nearest and live on without sideloading.
It's Apple way to pull out of market without pulling out of market. This destroys both quality and quantity of apps in EU, only lootbox gacha ad pay to win stuff can survive. Or apps with downloads < 1 mil (useless apps mostly).
It is not like Apple app store will disappear in EU. You will not need to actively avoid sideloading/changes for EU to make use of any features that are currently available.
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 12:20:18
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 12:12:56S24 Ultra is the only phone to get there
oh don't start on crappy chinese phones, we compare the best to the best

Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 12:12:56t's the cheapest console to get, yet it is closely followed by quite more expensive PS5
yet ps5 is not selling that much for some reason huh? maybe handheld is the magic word? :)

Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 12:12:56you don't really see people starring at their screens and playing games
man are YOU really leaving your home? :) everyone is doing that, candy crush saga and genshin and star rail and whatever else are raking in billions $

Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 12:12:56who even cares about games on phones
new generation is all about phone gaming, they even play standoff 2 instead of cs
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 12:37:48
Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 12:20:18
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 12:12:56S24 Ultra is the only phone to get there
oh don't start on crappy chinese phones, we compare the best to the best
You just confirmed my point in the quote.

Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 12:20:18yet ps5 is not selling that much for some reason huh? maybe handheld is the magic word? :)
Horrible numbers, yeah. Source. (https://gamerant.com/ps5-xbox-series-x-s-2023-sales-comparison-data/)

Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 12:20:18
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 12:12:56you don't really see people starring at their screens and playing games
man are YOU really leaving your home? :) everyone is doing that, candy crush saga and genshin and star rail and whatever else are raking in billions $
Sure they do. Last time I checked, literally seven minutes ago, people were talking to each other, walking alone or with someone else, sitting in a restaurant (where I was too) and eating their food... This morning in the gym people were doing their workouts (and who knows, maybe some of them were grinding Standoff 2 during their short breaks), while yesterday in IMAX most people paid their ticket to watch The Beekeeper (decent movie, nothing wow) instead to sit there and play Candy Crush.

I know that majority of people under 22 y.o. (and being in my 30s I'm not old either, I even still play competitive CS2 - for money) can't understand that there's a world larger than a 6.7" screen and there is more things to do in life but to play games on phones (and think about themselves as "the elite gamers of the gaming industry") but they will get there soon... Most likely with the help of the Apple Vision Pro.

Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 12:20:18new generation is all about phone gaming, they even play standoff 2 instead of cs
April 1st is 65 days away.
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 12:56:50
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 12:37:48You just confirmed my point in the quote
nice way to admit you were wrong

Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 12:37:48literally seven minutes ago, people were talking to each other, walking alone or with someone else, sitting in a restaurant (where I was too) and eating their food... This morning in the gym people were doing their workouts (and who knows, maybe some of them were grinding Standoff 2 during their short breaks), while yesterday in IMAX most people paid their ticket to watch The Beekeeper (decent movie, nothing wow) instead to sit there and play Candy Crush
android fan is denying reality. it's kinda weird to say people are eating in restaurant, training in gym and watching movie in cinemas. what are they doing while they are commuting or waiting or have spare time? nice story about your day but you simply evaded to explain how mobile gaming is raking in billions USD

Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 12:37:48April 1st is 65 days away
lol do you even know standoff 2 has 200 million players and 10 million reviews just on google play, while cs2 has 7.5 million reviews on steam. maybe PUBG mobile with 500M+ installs isn't convincing too, call of duty mobile with 200M? come on, get a life already, people are gaming their phones night and day
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 13:06:03
Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 12:56:50nice way to admit you were wrong
I was wrong that there is more choice on the Android side and not just the S24U? I know you can't understand that but - there is.

Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 12:56:50
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 12:37:48literally seven minutes ago, people were talking to each other, walking alone or with someone else, sitting in a restaurant (where I was too) and eating their food... This morning in the gym people were doing their workouts (and who knows, maybe some of them were grinding Standoff 2 during their short breaks), while yesterday in IMAX most people paid their ticket to watch The Beekeeper (decent movie, nothing wow) instead to sit there and play Candy Crush
android fan is denying reality. it's kinda weird to say people are eating in restaurant, training in gym and watching movie in cinemas. what are they doing while they are commuting or waiting or have spare time?
I know it's kinda weird to you when you don't do any of those (until Tim Cook tells you to do) so, naturally, you can't see them 😁

Reading books is a thing too, books can be read on phones (shocker, I know). Watching shows, movies, series also and even shitposting here on NBC as you are currently doing pretty well (why are not playing games now?!?).

But no one is doing anything but playing games - because that's all you know about. And people who commute by driving their car are most definitely not playing silly mobile games.

Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 12:56:50
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 12:37:48April 1st is 65 days away
lol do you even know standoff 2 has 200 million players and 10 million reviews just on google play, while cs2 has 7.5 million reviews on steam. maybe PUBG mobile with 500M+ installs isn't convincing too, call of duty mobile with 200M? come on, get a life already, people are gaming their phones night and day
😂😂😂😂😂

GTFO, this is comedy gold 🤣
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: RobertJasiek on January 26, 2024, 13:20:13
Quote from: sdvsvv on January 26, 2024, 11:53:57apps with downloads < 1 mil (useless apps mostly).

The level of your comment is exhibited, e.g., in this part, in which you say that my four decades of computer use have been "useless".
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 13:21:47
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 13:06:03I was wrong that there is more choice on the Android side and not just the S24U? I know you can't understand that but - there is.
to compete with pro max? good luck

Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 13:06:03and even shitposting here on NBC
you are the one shitposting here, your posts have no sense, you ignore all questions in favor of personal attacks

Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 13:06:03But no one is doing anything but playing games - because that's all you know about. And people who commute by driving their car are most definitely not playing silly mobile games.
good job on evading the direct question about how mobile games are making billions $ again

Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 13:06:03GTFO, this is comedy gold 🤣
and again evaded the direct question who did almost a billion installs if "no one is gaming"
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 14:07:01
Again, you came here and started with a port of a game that's coming to iOS (who cares) like that's the only important thing to take from the whole article, just to ignore all other points of having a freedom to do with your own phone whatever you want to do. And shortly after, among all other things like people doing nothing but playing games on their phones especially when they commute, you said this:

Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 12:56:50lol do you even know standoff 2 has 200 million players and 10 million reviews just on google play, while cs2 has 7.5 million reviews on steam. maybe PUBG mobile with 500M+ installs isn't convincing too, call of duty mobile with 200M?

Does this $1M prize pool tournament look like a Standoff 2 tournament to you? (https://youtu.be/pc-9WCVKdnw?t=4668)

Again, who exactly cares about cheap and generic phone games at all for more than to get a cheap and generic "fun" out of them?

Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 14:15:18
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 14:07:01Again, you came here and started with a port of a game that's coming to iOS (who cares) like that's the only important thing to take from the whole article
how is article even related? my post was related only to your "be smart get Android" shill response lol

Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 14:07:01among all other things like people doing nothing but playing games
i haven't even said that lol

Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 12:12:56Does this $1M prize pool tournament look like a Standoff 2 tournament to you?
unrelated

Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 14:07:01who exactly cares about cheap and generic phone games
yeah so two questions again
if no one cares about mobile gaming how mobile games earn billions of USD
if no one cares about mobile gaming who made almost a billion downloads of just three FPS games

one more weak attempt on evading the questions from you, i am bored. just admit you had no idea how popular mobile gaming is and all your opinions stated above are incorrect and based on wrong assumptions
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 14:20:58
Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 14:15:18
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 14:07:01Again, you came here and started with a port of a game that's coming to iOS (who cares) like that's the only important thing to take from the whole article
how is article even related? my post was related only to your "be smart get Android" shill response lol

Shill response is:

Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 08:39:50Or just use Android where you as a user have a choice to install whatever tf you want on your own device.
?


Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 14:15:18
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 14:07:01among all other things like people doing nothing but playing games
i haven't even said that lol

No? Let's see:

Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 12:20:18
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 12:12:56Because it's the cheapest console to get, yet it is closely followed by quite more expensive PS5. And then you turn around yourself and you don't really see people starring at their screens and playing games wherever you take a look, assuming you leave your home at all though.
man are YOU really leaving your home? :) everyone is doing that, candy crush saga and genshin and star rail and whatever else are raking in billions $

Oh look, you literally said that.

Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 14:15:18
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 12:12:56Does this $1M prize pool tournament look like a Standoff 2 tournament to you? (https://youtu.be/pc-9WCVKdnw?t=4668)
unrelated
Yep, it doesn't follow your narrative so it's unrelated. I give up, enjoy your mobile gaming (🙃).
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: gdnfgn on January 26, 2024, 14:22:45
Bipolar disorder is when one is both unhappy with cheap and generic Android games and with Apple trying to bring real triple-A gaming to mobile platform at the same time.
Neenyah is probably using his Nokia 3310 for phone calls and texting only. No fun allowed.
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 14:26:17
Quote from: gdnfgn on January 26, 2024, 14:22:45Bipolar disorder is when one is both unhappy with cheap and generic Android games and with Apple trying to bring real triple-A gaming to mobile platform at the same time.
Neenyah is probably using his Nokia 3310 for phone calls and texting only. No fun allowed.

Pixel 8 Pro, I don't play crappy mobile games because they are not fun, I have a PC for games with a 240 Hz 1440p screen to play native in ultra details and not with shitty upscaling on tiny phone screens in 30-60 fps. You have fun in Candy Crush or Eversoul on your phone? Well good for you, I'll stick to Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Cyberpunk, Stray, Sons of The Forest and such (and CS2 as my main game, of course).

Btw, I'm not against Apple bringing any games (AAA 🤣) on phones. I'm against Apple limiting choice to their users, I know that having choice and freedom what to do with something you paid with your money is a pretty radical way of thinking these days. Apple users in general like to be limited in choice and ways to think and will happily pay for more restrictions so all good there, everyone is happy. Cheers.
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 14:27:45
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 14:20:58Shill response is
yeah it is not shill of course because it is an article about android, oh wait, it is not, it is just some shill trying to advertise android everywhere

Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 14:07:01people doing nothing but playing games
Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 14:20:58everyone is doing that
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 14:20:58you literally said that
nice attempt, but you have failed again
there is a huge difference between "everyone is doing that" and "people doing nothing but that"

Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 14:20:58your narrative so it's unrelated
there was no narrative, i have asked you two simple question and you keep failing to answer them and trying to discuss anything else
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 14:28:59
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 14:26:17Pixel 8 Pro
zero battery life and zero warranty or support in 98% of the world
not a competitor
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Cassia on January 26, 2024, 16:30:17
Umm, so didn't read all the comments in this thread but as for gaming on mobile, there's no need to argue, guys. Cassia emu (allows running full fledged native x86 windows game executables on android) is coming mid 2024, so like in 5 months from now and so far the few preview screenshots that have already been shown show pretty good performance even on not the absolute latest phone hardware.

So don't worry, you'll be able to play death stranding along with many other triple AAA games on android soon (or you can just pay apple again for the privilege to play a select few of games you already own on other platforms, that works too as well).
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: ehh wrong on January 26, 2024, 17:32:22
Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 14:28:59
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 14:26:17Pixel 8 Pro
zero battery life and zero warranty or support in 98% of the world
not a competitor

hyperbole. braindead comment. the best of Apple can't even measure up to the worst of Android lol. freedom of choice will always win globally.
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 17:53:48
Quote from: ehh wrong on January 26, 2024, 17:32:22
Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 14:28:59
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 14:26:17Pixel 8 Pro
zero battery life and zero warranty or support in 98% of the world
not a competitor

hyperbole. braindead comment. the best of Apple can't even measure up to the worst of Android lol. freedom of choice will always win globally.
Of course it's hyperbole, didn't even need to reply to his yet another shitpost but I'll drop some numbers here because of your comment, to put things into context:


Pretty happy overall.
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Wellwellwell on January 26, 2024, 20:23:55
Quote from: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 14:28:59zero battery life and zero warranty or support in 98% of the world
not a competitor
Agreed, awful phone, Google shills really trying to compare it to S23/S24 or 15 pro max all the time, but it's just a different league, it's clear when you use them side by side. Guys with Pixel 8Pro simply can't swallow their buyers' remorse. And no, Google didn't fix performance and battery issues like every Google shill will try to convince you, Tensor CPU = Exynos with all its' issues (including AWFUL emulation support btw). Google only managed to make issues less bad over time.

Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 17:53:48Pretty happy overall.
Subjective opinion, people are happy even with Xiaomi. Also your list is from alternative universe.

Quote from: Cassia on January 26, 2024, 16:30:17So don't worry, you'll be able to play death stranding along with many other triple AAA games
It is based on Fex-Emu that already does the same, but its power consumption isn't lower than actually running the same game on x86 desktop. So yeah, it will be like Dex+Termux/Andronix on Android, you CAN create a native desktop semi-Linux (no root) running Linux apps on your phone, but reality is if you run anything this way you immediately can boil eggs on your phone (and that's NATIVE). So good luck waiting.
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: NikoB on January 26, 2024, 20:32:27
An adult capable person, notified of the risks, has the RIGHT to independently do with his property EVERYTHING he pleases.

Warranty obligations for the hardware parts are fulfilled in any case, until the manufacturer can prove in court through a forensic examination (under criminal liability of experts for perjury) that it was the actions of the owner of the device, who is still under the warranty period, that led to the appearance of defects in the hardware. Moreover, the inability to prove this automatically places the blame on the manufacturer. In those countries where Apple has refused official representation, everything is decided by litigation between the buyer and the seller, who is also given a presumption of guilt for shortcomings and the lack of legal representation in the country of the manufacturer.
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: DougR on January 27, 2024, 00:53:48
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 17:53:48
  • about two days of battery life (much improved than what it was initially in October and November of 2023)
  • faster charging (30W vs 20W with the iPhone 15 Pro Max)
  • great screen (better than iPhone 15 Pro/Pro Max)
  • better camera than with Apple (although very slightly, mainly in colour reproduction and better noise performance)
Do your own research, 1 is funny compared to ProMax, 2-4 is just shilling pixel and/or lack of knowledge about iPhones. So wrong on so many levels.
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Cassia on January 27, 2024, 10:12:13
Quote from: Wellwellwell on January 26, 2024, 20:23:55but its power consumption isn't lower than actually running the same game on x86 desktop.

Fair points, not gonna argue or disagree with those. However:
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=nFsy4mb3T1w (comment section)

"2-2.5hours" -@maxpayne69.

"Got about ~17 minutes in and my iPhone 15pro battery went from 97% to 76%. I used the Backbone & couldn't tell how hot iPhone got until I stopped my play session but it was very very hot." -@soiltek2015

"When I was playing RE Village, it got very hot and I lost most of my battery in an hour or so" -@Betancourtdm

It seems even the land of walled gardens isn't immune to the laws of physics. Unfortunate, as I was really hoping that the grass would be greener on the other side. I guess these issues just affect both platforms.
Title: Re: Apple begrudgingly allows app sideloading, third-party app stores — bemoans security risks in of
Post by: Neenyah on January 27, 2024, 15:33:42
Quote from: DougR on January 27, 2024, 00:53:48
Quote from: Neenyah on January 26, 2024, 17:53:48
  • about two days of battery life (much improved than what it was initially in October and November of 2023)
  • faster charging (30W vs 20W with the iPhone 15 Pro Max)
  • great screen (better than iPhone 15 Pro/Pro Max)
  • better camera than with Apple (although very slightly, mainly in colour reproduction and better noise performance)
Do your own research, 1 is funny compared to ProMax, 2-4 is just shilling pixel and/or lack of knowledge about iPhones. So wrong on so many levels.
I'm aware that you are fapping on Apple's logo and Tim Cook's picture(s), that's clear as it's clear that you have never used a Pixel 8/8 Pro. Is this also shilling for Android where, oh well, iPhone unsurprisingly sucks in yet another area against the Pixel?

S24 Ultra vs iPhone 15 Pro Max vs Pixel 8 Pro - Heavy Workload Test (Speed, Battery & Thermals) (https://youtu.be/KLVbgnEld8M) (@In Depth Tech Reviews, Jan 25, 2024)