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Title: Samsung chairman calls Galaxy S24 series "more disappointing than iPhone" at high-level meeting
Post by: Redaktion on January 24, 2024, 05:40:45
Samsung head honcho Lee Jae-Yong was disappointed at the company's lack of innovation with the Galaxy S24 series. In a meeting with 40 department heads, he criticized it for the lack of innovation.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-chairman-calls-Galaxy-S24-series-more-disappointing-than-iPhone-at-high-level-meeting.796514.0.html
Title: Re: Samsung chairman calls Galaxy S24 series \
Post by: Budd on January 24, 2024, 14:13:25
Bruh a Samsung chairman is against Samsung now? They introduced s### tons of AI, how is that more disappointing than iPhone (new colors only)
Title: Re: Samsung chairman calls Galaxy S24 series
Post by: Spudd on January 24, 2024, 14:26:33
I think they are just not happy with how it's doing in relation to competitors. Indo agree that it seems like they're resting on their laurels with this release. Putting in AI features like they did is no small feat and it actually finally helps Samsung catch up to Google's Pixel's exclusive features but outwardly, not much else has changed. It is the CEO's job to challenge and motivate the company. I'm just surprised that they reacted this way after the reveal. I would have thought the CEO would have been more involved earlier in the process but I've heard it takes nearly 2 years to develop these phones so some things just can't be changed until the next iteration. I do agree with the article saying Chinese OEMs are running circles around Samsungs so maybe we will see some cooler features coming in the next few years.
Title: Re: Samsung chairman calls Galaxy S24 series \
Post by: ossie77 on January 24, 2024, 18:18:30
For the first time a Pixel phone has better hardware specs than a Galaxy S phone. The 8 Pro has a better set up. Its not even up for debate. Whats more it costs less. The Samsung businessman has just stated a truth.
Title: Re: Samsung chairman calls Galaxy S24 series
Post by: ZAMYORKER.usa on January 24, 2024, 19:33:54
The one thing I like about democracy is everyone has an 'opinion' and is free to express themselves as they wish. Call me crazy but as a dual citizen in these here United States, if it's one thing I have come to treasure the most are FACT based discussions. Whilst as a long time Samsung user one's initial thought would be I would side or be in favor of the brand/product regardless... Wrong I am a consumer first, so if something is off I would comeout and say it straight.I must say it is rather gutsy to base an article on a purpoted leak.  To make the statement that Jae-Yong said these things about the S24 Ultra's innovation is simply put, a rumuor and baseless. 'Rewind' November 2023 at the Samsung Advanced Institute of Technology Hyung-Kyung President and CEO of device solutions was the speaker at the AI/CE forum, look it up on Google and YouTube also published on reputable platforms and blogs.
'fast forward-current) If you take your time and browse around the various reviews available online it's hard to believe Jae-Yong is disappointed with this device. The S24 ultra alone has set the standard with Corning Gorilla, enhancing the visual experience whilst reducing reflections, Then you have the Titanium with the matte finish combined with the visual enhancement less fingerprint smudges is a good thing and we are not even talking about what's under the hood yet.
I have followed Mrwhosetheboss, MarksTech and Sakitech on YouTube. Being pro iPhone users their honest take has been informative, with MarksTech saying: "Man this phone is making me not want to pick up my iPhone" . This is not to say that one is outright better than the other, but Samsung can give themselves a pat on the back for a job well done and keeping 🍎 honest because what they have achieved is no easy feat. On most reviews the biggest issue I have seen more repeatedly is the issue on the price, and for some it has been the issue of embracing AI functionality many users in the comments of above mentioned reviews have suggested they will wait for the S25 Ultra whilst continuing with their current Galaxy.
Personally for me in seeing the reviews thus far, it's factually difficult to believe there is an ounce of disappointment from the CEO when you have device ambassadors globe trotting to promote the product, also from a feasibility point of view, what would it say about the brand to release a product that they are disappointed about and go one step further investing millions in promotion/production?  Furthermore an online search of any such news is only coming up when this article pops up right at the top of the Google search, "well played mate" but facts 👏🏿 are what the business is all about.
Am just saying CEO, disappointment, leak in the same breath in this case and most importantly at this stage just does not make sense. If said meeting even occurred this would not be surprising had the meeting been held around July/August of 2023 when Apple announced the 15 Pro Max IMO.
Title: Re: Samsung chairman calls Galaxy S24 series
Post by: kek on January 24, 2024, 20:08:13
Quote from: Budd on January 24, 2024, 14:13:25Bruh a Samsung chairman is against Samsung now? They introduced s### tons of AI, how is that more disappointing than iPhone (new colors only)

AI crap is only useful for kids and youtubers. Its just marketing talk to sell you software "features.

I have yet to see what problem does AI on a phone solves for an everyday user. Tweaking photos can only go so far if the photo itself is unsalvageable. And most assistants have proved themselves to be more of an annoyance than a helpful resource for many (Bixby, Siri, Cortana, Alexa, etc).

Besides that, all that AI stuff could have been pushed through software updates. No need for new models for that...

I'm not defending Apple here either, but since the S10 lineup, Samsung has done nothing impressive. They have gone backwards in all of their lineups, even the A series has suffered.
Title: Re: Samsung chairman calls Galaxy S24 series
Post by: Nyankana on January 25, 2024, 15:13:51
So basically the chairman is admitting that he is clueless about his own products and tries to shift blame on people under him. Is there a particular reason why the chairman is not able to think from customer's perspective himself? Why do other people need to help him make better products that he failed to achieve as a chairman of his own company? I have not owned a samsung product for a very long time, and now I have more reason not to. I am not going to invest in products that the chairman of the company doesn't even know what he is trying to produce.
Title: Re: Samsung chairman calls Galaxy S24 series \
Post by: Vrvly on January 25, 2024, 15:32:44
Fildables with flagship lvl cameras would be satisfactory.
VR with XR function, flagship cameras and virtual phone would be ideal.
New sw trick or 1 added sensor will not make my heart skip.
Title: Re: Samsung chairman calls Galaxy S24 series \
Post by: Tristan on January 25, 2024, 16:02:39
Everything is amazing but I just want 3.5 mm jack
Title: Re: Samsung chairman calls Galaxy S24 series
Post by: Glen on January 25, 2024, 17:28:13
Quote from: ossie77 on January 24, 2024, 18:18:30For the first time a Pixel phone has better hardware specs than a Galaxy S phone. The 8 Pro has a better set up. Its not even up for debate. Whats more it costs less. The Samsung businessman has just stated a truth.

Not really. Upon comparing the specs, they are on par with each other. Only thing in Pro 8's favor is 50 mah better battery, and cheaper price. On the S24 Ultra, better screen, better scratch resistant, and better camera. You should really do your research before commenting false facts.
Title: Re: Samsung chairman calls Galaxy S24 series
Post by: Alano on January 25, 2024, 18:43:45
Ask yourself, paid premium for a fold phone @ $2.5k SGD and just l year after warranty ends, the WiFi give way. Brought to samsung centre, reason by them due to folding the "fold phone" too much and repair fee is $600 sgd, Will you buy this brand again? Awesome 👏 👏 🤣
Title: Re: Samsung chairman calls Galaxy S24 series \
Post by: Ryan from Miami on January 25, 2024, 18:51:58
How about they bring back the MicroSD card slot or at least give us 1TB as an option on the smallest phone. Is that so hard for these morons to understand?
Title: Re: Samsung chairman calls Galaxy S24 series
Post by: nice on January 25, 2024, 19:50:51
Quote from: ZAMYORKER.usa on January 24, 2024, 19:33:54I have followed Mrwhosetheboss, MarksTech and Sakitech on YouTube. Being pro iPhone users their honest take has been informative, with MarksTech saying: "Man this phone is making me not want to pick up my iPhone" .
If reviewer got S24 ahead of global release - his review is curated by Samsung. And if review will be bad - he will not get S25 ahead of release. And getting those ahead of release is youtubers' bread and butter, so what kind of review did you expect.
Title: Re: Samsung chairman calls Galaxy S24 series
Post by: Whitelightening on January 26, 2024, 02:52:57
Quote from: Tristan on January 25, 2024, 16:02:39Everything is amazing but I just want 3.5 mm jack

That is USB technology.  Get a mini USB adapter from C to mini USB. Plug in the C adapter to mini USB and you will see that the USB technology is better.  The 3.5 mill jack was only good for 2 things and 1 was head phones.  Don't need that.  Bluetooth takes car of that.

Only one thing I would like to see come back is the sd card slot.  When they did away with the SD card slot  many people were disappointed.  My self for 1.  With a 512mb sd card you could back up your entire phone.  Everyone now is stating you can do that on cloud.  I don't know about any of the customers that have losed pictures, videos, and such on cloud.  I have.  So boost the sd card slot.  Let your customers put in a sd card from 256mb to terabytes.
So think of the better of the options.  USB versus a 3.5 mm jack.  Bluetooth has alot of vantage points over 3.5mm Jack's.  Only thing I can think to use a 3.5mm for is head phones and a plug n play from phone to car radio.  Then we are back to Bluetooth. So why would a 3.5mm jack be an improvement over Bluetooth and  a sd card slot upto 1 terabytes?  Just talking out loud. 
I myself would like to see a sd card slot come back.  You can actually do more with the sd card slot than you can with a 1 way communication 3.5mm jack.

White lightening
Title: Re: Samsung chairman calls Galaxy S24 series
Post by: FK on January 26, 2024, 06:48:05
Quote from: Whitelightening on January 26, 2024, 02:52:57
Quote from: Tristan on January 25, 2024, 16:02:39Everything is amazing but I just want 3.5 mm jack

That is USB technology.  Get a mini USB adapter from C to mini USB. Plug in the C adapter to mini USB and you will see that the USB technology is better.  The 3.5 mill jack was only good for 2 things and 1 was head phones.  Don't need that.  Bluetooth takes car of that.

Only one thing I would like to see come back is the sd card slot.  When they did away with the SD card slot  many people were disappointed.  My self for 1.  With a 512mb sd card you could back up your entire phone.  Everyone now is stating you can do that on cloud.  I don't know about any of the customers that have losed pictures, videos, and such on cloud.  I have.  So boost the sd card slot.  Let your customers put in a sd card from 256mb to terabytes.
So think of the better of the options.  USB versus a 3.5 mm jack.  Bluetooth has alot of vantage points over 3.5mm Jack's.  Only thing I can think to use a 3.5mm for is head phones and a plug n play from phone to car radio.  Then we are back to Bluetooth. So why would a 3.5mm jack be an improvement over Bluetooth and  a sd card slot upto 1 terabytes?  Just talking out loud. 
I myself would like to see a sd card slot come back.  You can actually do more with the sd card slot than you can with a 1 way communication 3.5mm jack.

White lightening


audio jack has better quality than any BT codec out there. Plus you can use your old wired headsets without plugging in a dongle and not having a possibility to charge the phone. And you can use it as external microphone.
But yeah. Switch the 3.5mm jack for 2.5 balanced and we are golden.
Title: Re: Samsung chairman calls Galaxy S24 series
Post by: Rafeeq Ahmed on January 26, 2024, 07:08:24
Quote from: Whitelightening on January 26, 2024, 02:52:57
Quote from: Tristan on January 25, 2024, 16:02:39Everything is amazing but I just want 3.5 mm jack

That is USB technology.  Get a mini USB adapter from C to mini USB. Plug in the C adapter to mini USB and you will see that the USB technology is better.  The 3.5 mill jack was only good for 2 things and 1 was head phones.  Don't need that.  Bluetooth takes car of that.

Only one thing I would like to see come back is the sd card slot.  When they did away with the SD card slot  many people were disappointed.  My self for 1.  With a 512mb sd card you could back up your entire phone.  Everyone now is stating you can do that on cloud.  I don't know about any of the customers that have losed pictures, videos, and such on cloud.  I have.  So boost the sd card slot.  Let your customers put in a sd card from 256mb to terabytes.
So think of the better of the options.  USB versus a 3.5 mm jack.  Bluetooth has alot of vantage points over 3.5mm Jack's.  Only thing I can think to use a 3.5mm for is head phones and a plug n play from phone to car radio.  Then we are back to Bluetooth. So why would a 3.5mm jack be an improvement over Bluetooth and  a sd card slot upto 1 terabytes?  Just talking out loud. 
I myself would like to see a sd card slot come back.  You can actually do more with the sd card slot than you can with a 1 way communication 3.5mm jack.

White lightening

I need sd card with dedicated slot
Title: Re: Samsung chairman calls Galaxy S24 series
Post by: Andrew Id on January 26, 2024, 12:13:13
Quote from: FK on January 26, 2024, 06:48:05audio jack has better quality than any BT codec out there
better quality of what, phone DACs were always awful
Title: Re: Samsung chairman calls Galaxy S24 series
Post by: Sherwin on January 27, 2024, 02:11:26
This is the new click bait now. Totally lie about the title and blatantly misquote someone. Then just apologize and retract later. By then, they've already made money. For this notebookchat.com is now cancelled.