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Title: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: Redaktion on November 21, 2023, 00:04:21
The PlayStation Portal is a somewhat peculiar gaming handheld that only works in conjunction with a PlayStation 5. A teardown now makes clear that the device hardly has enough power for games other than streaming. The case without screws looks stylish, but makes repairs difficult.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Sony-PlayStation-Portal-Teardown-reveals-outdated-Snapdragon-and-unnecessarily-cumbersome-case.770870.0.html
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: Anonymousgg on November 21, 2023, 01:38:51
Snapdragon 662 is better than I expected. If it's hackable through the USB-C charging port and goes on sale/used for $50, maybe there's something to it. I guess miniscule internal storage would be a problem, and it might have to be tethered to work as a standalone handheld.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: Gallo123 on November 21, 2023, 06:28:54
You kidding? Snapdragon 662 is not outdated because it's still sold today. It's very capable for normal smartphone usage so streaming alone is already overkill.

Calling anything outdated just because it's not flagship is just exasperating eWaste.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: Double Dipper on November 21, 2023, 07:03:37
Outdated huh, really not hardly. Snapdragon 665 chip in my moto stylus of 2022 is a midrange beast. I payed $250 and broke even .  emulation if Wii U lower end titles are playable like Super Mario Bros and some. But definitely handles GameCube and PSP like a champ on steroids. Some of those devices that can do that sell easily over $200 alone . So getting a Phone with a 500gb of storage was a steal. Limited to Android 13 but I don't care. I buy a phone ounce every three to four years. So I know a 662 snapdragon is still nothing to sneeze at. This portal device your covering may not be a hackers dream but who's to blame for that. If you want a company like Sony to give out something nice, you gotta stop with this hack anything attitude towards their stuff. 
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: Emto Piceles on November 21, 2023, 14:41:00
The snapdragon 662 is horribly outdated considering they could've gone with the 680 and gotten significant battery savings. Even the Helio G99 would have been a far better choice
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: Jonny on November 21, 2023, 20:13:59
This thing is going to flop hard.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: A on November 21, 2023, 20:45:03
Outdated for what, it's just a streaming device.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: Stu on November 21, 2023, 20:50:25
Quote from: Jonny on November 21, 2023, 20:13:59This thing is going to flop hard.

Hmmm, sold out everywhere.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: Rottytops1 on November 22, 2023, 04:40:04
Snapdragon 662 is more than sufficient for 1080p cloud streaming.

I was playing Stadia on my 660 that was 2 generations older 1080p 60FPS just fine, even on a 5Ghz WiFi signal.

That processor/SoC is capable of delivering on its promises without worrying about bottlenecks in the hardware performance so I don't really see the issue.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: Spaceballone on November 22, 2023, 06:29:55

This thing is going to flop hard.
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Hmmm, sold out everywhere.
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Due to scalpers not gamers rushing out to get something any phone/tablet released within the past 7 years can and does already do!
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: Spaceballone on November 22, 2023, 06:36:37
So £200 for a one trick pony or for £150 more a fully fledged hand held gaming pc aka the steamdeck that runs games natively aswell as streaming not only pc but also playstation and xbox via their streaming services not to mention a ton of emulators, you'd either have to be a complete idiot or a fanboy to believe the ps portal represents any kind of value compared to the steamdeck.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: bioboy79 on November 22, 2023, 12:45:30
I wish someone would address the stick issues (search Reddit for "portal analog stick issue"). It's more widespread than I thought, but no official outlet has mentioned it. For such a simple device (it is nothing more than a glorified controller), the issue should have never been a thing. Instead I'm waiting since two weeks for replacement, with the risk that the new unit has the same problem, if it's a "bad batch" thing or a production problem then needs to be sorted out.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: A on November 22, 2023, 13:01:27
Quote from: bioboy79 on November 22, 2023, 12:45:30I wish someone would address the stick issues (search Reddit for "portal analog stick issue"). It's more widespread than I thought, but no official outlet has mentioned it. For such a simple device (it is nothing more than a glorified controller), the issue should have never been a thing. Instead I'm waiting since two weeks for replacement, with the risk that the new unit has the same problem, if it's a "bad batch" thing or a production problem then needs to be sorted out.
Funny, every 2nd account commenting "me too have this issue" looks like a sleeper reddit account, registration -> couple messages -> long pause -> comment on Portal.

There's probably a same issue they've had with DualSense, but competitors seem to be dumping money to make it seem more widespread than it is. Also I see money dumped on Youtube influencers for "nah Portal is not needed" narrative.

Competition wars are rough nowadays.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: Anonymousgg on November 22, 2023, 14:51:06
Quote from: A on November 22, 2023, 13:01:27Funny, every 2nd account commenting "me too have this issue" looks like a sleeper reddit account, registration -> couple messages -> long pause -> comment on Portal.

There's probably a same issue they've had with DualSense, but competitors seem to be dumping money to make it seem more widespread than it is. Also I see money dumped on Youtube influencers for "nah Portal is not needed" narrative.

Competition wars are rough nowadays.

Do competitors care enough to pay for a bot/influencer campaign to diss Portal? I see that it's selling out, but that's probably because it's new.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: Zoltan279 on November 22, 2023, 17:59:30
For 200 dollars you are getting a well made screen, a MSRP $70 dollar controller and a decently powered device.  I honestly don't know what you would expecting.  It seemingly performs well and with solid battery life with it's biggest hangup being the interface with regards to authenticating to public wifi....something that CAN be addressed with a patch.

IMO....it's a fairly priced device.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: Russell on November 22, 2023, 18:02:18
For something that's 'outdated' it looks and plays beautifully. It's brought a whole new dimension to how I play my PS5, I'm definitely playing more and I'm actually starting to get through some of my backlog now.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: Robert on November 22, 2023, 18:29:08
If Apple do same most critics wowing and calling that as innovation, even if they use 3y old hardware people will to overpay by thousands
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: A on November 22, 2023, 18:38:31
Quote from: Zoltan279 on November 22, 2023, 17:59:30For 200 dollars you are getting a well made screen, a MSRP $70 dollar controller and a decently powered device.
Wellll on the other hand you could get mini Switch for those
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: Rinzler on November 23, 2023, 22:16:32
I'm at a loss for why you think a strong device which has zero intention to be a stand-alone device is supposed to have a stronger processor which would make it....what? It's a streaming device. A stronger processor would 1. Make the cost go up. 2. Make it run hotter. 3. Provide absolutely positively zero benefit. For sure we can all be thankful that they didn't make such an inexplicably pointless mistake as installing a stronger processor on a streaming peripheral. So with respect...please help me understand why you think they should have opted for one, and name one single benefit to having it. I've given you the benefits of what they chose. What is a single benefit of a stronger processor on a peripheral that isn't designed to run games outside of a simple stream?
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: HelloEducato on November 25, 2023, 13:49:24
Quote from: Double Dipper on November 21, 2023, 07:03:37Outdated huh, really not hardly. Snapdragon 665 chip in my moto stylus of 2022 is a midrange beast.
Err.. no. Snapdragon 662 was in Moto Stylus 2020, announced on February 07 2020. and even back then it wasn't a "midrange offering" anyways... This thing is only for streaming, so it doesn't need so much power. 662 is enough for that, but don't call it a "midrange beast". It was low range even when it was released almost 4 years ago. Don't let that first number 6 at the beggining fool you. It was never a mid-range offering. 660 and his siblings 662 and 665 are not the same and not from the same era. 660 was a premuim mid range offering and 662/665 was low tier. Cheers!
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: Dareelsaint on November 25, 2023, 18:58:53
I'm kinda tired of people criticizing the portal for not being what they wanted it to be. Sony said what this is going to be and was transparent and it is delivering what it said it's going to do. Why does it need a powerful processor if it's only job in life is to stream and support wifi and earbud connection? I agree with Sony, make a streaming device versus creating a whole new portable console requiring support from devs to make successful. PS5 have support and many games so why not leverage that. All journalists think they have the answers but don't realize the scope and cost it takes to develop an economy. Also I'm tired of people saying that it's sucks cause it came stream Netflix, Hulu etc. I have a million devices that can do that , so I don't need another one.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: Billy on November 25, 2023, 21:20:12
"the device hardly has enough power for games other than streaming"

Funny, that's all it does! It doesn't natively play games, so that's all it needs the power to do.

I was fortunate enough to get one early on and I love it. Many of my games don't cross save progression across devices, so I'm glad to,say, keep playing DBD with my current characters and add-ons.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: Jorgi of Arstotska on November 27, 2023, 08:08:36
This device is useless. You can get a better experience with your smartphone and a DualSense controller with a phone clip. You already have the smartphone and DualSense, and a phone clip is $20 or less on Amazon. But if you want to flush money down the toilet, feel free.
Title: Sony PlayStation Portal
Post by: superlativeb on November 27, 2023, 14:01:44
I think ppl have very unrealistic expectations for devices/capabilities of things plus the relationship the price has with it as well.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: A on November 27, 2023, 14:32:06
Quote from: Jorgi of Arstotska on November 27, 2023, 08:08:36You can get a better experience with your smartphone and a DualSense controller with a phone clip.
I doubt wearing out battery of a more expensive smartphone is a better solution
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation Portal: Teardown reveals outdated Snapdragon and unnecessarily cumbersome case
Post by: YUKI93 on December 07, 2023, 18:11:03
Snapdragon 662? I may as well just get a secondhand Xperia 10 Mk2 instead.