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Title: New fuel made from scrap aluminium delivers twice the energy of diesel
Post by: Redaktion on November 03, 2023, 12:13:34
A new eco-friendly fuel, produced from aluminium, stores more energy than batteries and can be obtained from scrap metal. This recycled energy source would otherwise go to waste and can be used in the transport sector to reduce emissions.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/New-fuel-made-from-scrap-aluminium-delivers-twice-the-energy-of-diesel.764892.0.html
Title: Re: New fuel made from scrap aluminium delivers twice the energy of diesel
Post by: Scott on November 06, 2023, 23:10:00
I was working on this same idea but couldn't get anyone interested in participating in the project. Generating H2 from a chemical reaction with aluminum provides a great opportunity for generating green hydrogen.
Title: Re: New fuel made from scrap aluminium delivers twice the energy of diesel
Post by: Jay Byrd on November 08, 2023, 05:32:50
I was working on separating hydrogen and oxygen from water but the opposition from the government was brutal.  They can't tax something that they don't control the delivery of.
Title: Re: New fuel made from scrap aluminium delivers twice the energy of diesel
Post by: Ged Reilly on November 08, 2023, 13:26:51
I don't understand why people want to destroy something which can be reused. Surely a better use for waste aluminium would be to melt and remold into a new product. If you convert it to energy what are the by-products? What is left after conversion?
Title: Re: New fuel made from scrap aluminium delivers twice the energy of diesel
Post by: Rudy on November 09, 2023, 02:31:27
Considering the price of Aluminum these days and the fact it is 100% recyclable, this makes no sense at all.
Title: Re: New fuel made from scrap aluminium delivers twice the energy of diesel
Post by: Alan on November 09, 2023, 02:43:28
I thought they made new cans out of the recycled aluminum.
Title: Re: New fuel made from scrap aluminium delivers twice the energy of diesel
Post by: Jason mooooo on November 09, 2023, 15:59:54
Did you all not read the article  becouse what it says is that when they recycle aluminum there is a bye product  left over like diesel  with gas that is a un taped market  for a cleaner and more efficient  energy  solution
Title: Re: New fuel made from scrap aluminium delivers twice the energy of diesel
Post by: Brandon Hicks on November 09, 2023, 18:50:58
Aluminum is incredible amounts of embodied energy, this is true. But it got that energy through heat and direct combustion. It's an infinitely recyclable material and takes so much energy and carbon dioxide to make, that "burning" it is such a waste.

The way to refine Aluminum to remove its oxides is by introducing carbon, which produces carbon dioxide as a byproduct. This has to be done at high temps, and directly consumes energy to run the process. So, even if we could 100% electrify the grid, it would still require carbon dioxide emissions to produce aluminum.
Title: Re: New fuel made from scrap aluminium delivers twice the energy of diesel
Post by: Ed Grouberman on November 10, 2023, 19:31:16
What other by products does the reaction leave? Is there something besides aluminum hydroxide and hydrogen left behind. I'm sure the process produces heat too. Is there a way we can use thermal electricity production with the the reaction to make the process self reliant?  So many more questions here.
Title: Re: New fuel made from scrap aluminium delivers twice the energy of diesel
Post by: Mohd amin on November 11, 2023, 01:02:31
Very confusing article for readers who have no particular knowledge of the process. I would have provided basic process information.
Title: Re: New fuel made from scrap aluminium delivers twice the energy of diesel
Post by: Kevin C on November 11, 2023, 03:49:21
The article says that scrap aluminum ends up in landfills, because industry can't ship it efficiently to a customer. Making it into fuel is a better plan B than the landfill. Also No it doesn't need to be melted to extract Hydrogen. It's by chemical reaction. It's like when an Alca seltzer hits water and releases carbon dioxide. 
Title: Re: New fuel made from scrap aluminium delivers twice the energy of diesel
Post by: jerry on November 13, 2023, 00:48:31
I got a US issued patent on using Al with an inert catalyst to split water into H2, Al(OH)3 and heat back in 1982