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Title: Microsoft's new Surface Laptops are expensive, but the products are not good enough
Post by: Redaktion on October 11, 2023, 16:40:16
We reviewed Microsoft's latest Surface models Laptop Studio 2 as well as Laptop Go 3. While the Surface Laptop Studio 2 introduces some welcome changes, the Surface Laptop Go 3 did not really change all that mich. However, both devices are just too expensive.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-s-new-Surface-Laptops-are-expensive-but-the-products-are-not-good-enough.758790.0.html
Title: Re: Microsoft's new Surface Laptops are expensive, but the products are not good enough
Post by: Swizzy on October 11, 2023, 21:23:36
Full agree which is why I find it odd that both nonetheless scored over 80/100 here.
Title: Re: Microsoft's new Surface Laptops are expensive, but the products are not good enough
Post by: Mr Majestyk on October 12, 2023, 02:44:47
Great to see a news site call overpriced rubbish out. Most reviewers just ignore the value and quality aspects. I mean look at all the glowing reviews for Acer that make trash quality hardware, but they have good features.
Title: Re: Microsoft's new Surface Laptops are expensive, but the products are not good enough
Post by: George on October 12, 2023, 03:09:43
I actually own 2 different 'surface' products.

The first is a basic i5 unit (likely with 8GB of memory) bought to fit in my Camera bag to run Windows based Photography programs and offload images from my DLSR's. It never gets 'updated' as it never is 'online' and the handful of programs I have for it do what I need them to do.

The 2nd one WAS at one point one of my favorite Windows devices - a 1st gen 13" 'Surface Book Pro' - well spec'ed, surprisingly awesome keyboard, love the aspect ratio and high resolution screen. (it even has a GTX1050 stuffed in the keyboard)

At the time the idea that it was a 'convertable' was just an interesting feature. I've never used it as a tablet nor do ever plan to. Why not use it? It upgraded itself to WIN11 and I not only dislike WIN11 but now have 'ultralites' that function better than the Surface Book.

While MS seems to have missed the mark here with their recent products (don't they watch what others are releasing?) I'd look for DEEP discounts coming soon on these overpriced misconfigured products.

It won't be the 1st or the last time a OEM released a overpriced product into a crowded market.
Title: Re: Microsoft's new Surface Laptops are expensive, but the products are not good enough
Post by: Charlie on October 12, 2023, 06:02:35
Surface is the most stable Windows device there is. I have used Surface Laptop for 2 years now and I have experienced 0 crashes.
Their display, audio, keyboard and trackpad is much better than other laptops.

But when Surface first released their innovative and experimental products like the Pro and Book, they were amazing.
Hoping for a new experimental product in their coming releases.
Title: Re: Microsoft's new Surface Laptops are expensive, but the products are not good enough
Post by: RobertJasiek on October 12, 2023, 08:17:14
The first innovation all Surface devices need is
- a very easily user-replaceable battery,
- very easy availability of batteries on Microsoft's webpage,
- fair market prices of ca. €20 ~ 60 for batteries instead of the total rip-off prices of ca. €250 Microsoft is offering for only one or two of its Surface devices,
- promised unlimited availability of batteries (if this is too difficult for proprietary batteries, standardise them(!)).

The second innovation all Surface devices need is
- a low reflectance display (e.g., matte or else at least no more than the 1.8% iPad reflectance).

In comparison, all other possible re-innovations, except maybe for very easy SSD and RAM replacements, are immaterial.
Title: Re: Microsoft's new Surface Laptops are expensive, but the products are not good enough
Post by: Truther on October 12, 2023, 19:03:54
Agreed if you look at its direct competitor from Apple, Apple products have the premium price tag but they're actually good products now and are not longer fighting a value proposition, M Series SOC Pushed a huge difference in performance to watt ratio. Surface on the other hand was too scared and getting paid the intel pennies to keep using Intel chips when they should have been using more competitive AMD chips. To this day theyre still too scared to break branding from Intel and refusing the move on properly to AMD like the rest of the market has. Theyre products are built well and to a higher standard than most products on the market but the hardware itself is shooting themselves in the foot. The entire surface line is no longer as innovative as they once were.