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English => News => Topic started by: Redaktion on October 10, 2023, 13:50:34

Title: Detailed Intel Arrow Lake and Arrow Lake Refresh leak reveals massive performance gains, release dates, and core counts
Post by: Redaktion on October 10, 2023, 13:50:34
Intel Arrow Lake is expected to be the next big architecture revision for Team Blue's desktop CPUs, as the Raptor Lake Refresh is only a minor upgrade over the current Raptor Lake processors and the Meteor Lake products are likely to only be available on laptops. Adding to past leaks, Moore's Law Is Dead has now revealed more information regarding the core counts, performance estimates, and release dates of Arrow Lake and Arrow Lake Refresh CPUs.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Detailed-Intel-Arrow-Lake-and-Arrow-Lake-Refresh-leak-reveals-massive-performance-gains-release-dates-and-core-counts.757849.0.html
Title: Re: Detailed Intel Arrow Lake and Arrow Lake Refresh leak reveals usual nonsense
Post by: George on October 11, 2023, 02:38:12
I'm sorry but its been MANY decades since Team Blue has delivered on %25-40 performance gains.

If you actually believe this obvious marketing nonsense I have a bridge to sell you!

This is classic SOP to create 'excitement' and 'buzz' about their new products in the pipeline that if the last 30yrs of their history is ANY lesson, they will fail to deliver on. Period.

Title: Re: Detailed Intel Arrow Lake and Arrow Lake Refresh leak reveals massive performance gains, release
Post by: Mr Majestyk on October 11, 2023, 03:54:30
cough BS cough. No SMT so it will suffer huge (up to 33%) performance loss in MT'ing if it were the same architecture as Raptor Lake. This means to overcome the penalty Lion Cove cores would need to be ~70% faster in MT'ing if they deliver a 40% increase.

Title: Re: Detailed Intel Arrow Lake and Arrow Lake Refresh leak reveals massive performance gains, release
Post by: tomtomtm on October 24, 2023, 09:28:35
Quote from: Mr Majestyk on October 11, 2023, 03:54:30cough BS cough. No SMT so it will suffer huge (up to 33%) performance loss in MT'ing if it were the same architecture as Raptor Lake. This means to overcome the penalty Lion Cove cores would need to be ~70% faster in MT'ing if they deliver a 40% increase.


you are wrong, hyperthread only boosts multithread by around 25% if there is only P-core, and intel Ecores have no hyperthread anyway.
if you turn off hyperthread for 13900k, r23 drops from 40k to 33k, a 18% performance cost.
Title: Re: Detailed Intel Arrow Lake and Arrow Lake Refresh leak reveals massive performance gains, release
Post by: NikoB on October 24, 2023, 14:43:05
The disgraceful Intel team with the new "7nm" technical process will only catch up with the energy efficiency of Zen3+ and nothing more. They were losing to Zen4 Phoenix, and they will be, and this is last year's AMD processor. By the time ArrowLake is released, AMD will already have Zen5+.

The only thing that saves Intel, with the connivance of the antitrust authorities of all countries and especially the US/EU, is that they still control more than 70% of the market for consumer x86 processors, and AMD apparently doesn't care about this fading market.

The world is already quickly moving to Arm processors, and the x86 codebase is no longer a serious obstacle in terms of compatibility.

Soon Intel will be left with nothing but x86 processors that no one needs anymore...