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Title: Surface Go 4: Microsoft to offer minor refresh this autumn with Intel Processor N200 and no ARM option
Post by: Redaktion on August 04, 2023, 23:11:05
According to a new report, Microsoft is planning yet another iterative update for the Surface Go series. Allegedly arriving either as the Surface Go 3+ or Surface Go 4, the convertible has shed its ARM variant and will launch this autumn with a sole low-powered Intel Alder Lake-N option.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Surface-Go-4-Microsoft-to-offer-minor-refresh-this-autumn-with-Intel-Processor-N200-and-no-ARM-option.738667.0.html
Title: Re: Surface Go 4: Microsoft to offer minor refresh this autumn with Intel Processor N200 and no ARM
Post by: Ramsey on August 07, 2023, 20:40:52
To be fair to Microsoft, there's no current chip in the Qualcomm portfolio that has the performance/price that Intel can offer.

The 7c+ Gen 3, has not yet been featured in ANY device, its a re-hashed 8cx Gen 2, so it has 800 Single Core and 2,800 in Multi Core scores in Geekbench 5.

The 7c Gen 2 is a joke, with around 600 Single core and 1800 in Multicore.

The N200 will feature reasonably modern low-power x86 cores, with 900 in single core, and 3,500 in multicore; very akin to the performance of a Qualcomm 8 Gen 1 (Samsung-made), and with competitive power usage (6W TDP).

However, will remain compatible with x86 Windows Software.

For some reason, Qualcomm is lazy in providing compelling offerings to Windows on ARM machines, probably because of lack of competition, the "exclusive" agreement between Microsoft and Qualcomm has been one of the worst ever.
Title: Re: Surface Go 4: Microsoft to offer minor refresh this autumn with Intel Processor N200 and no ARM
Post by: Klaus.at on August 24, 2023, 16:28:00
Actually quite excited about this "minor refresh".

Graphics performance is doubled, when going by benchmarks. This *is* a tablet, so mobile games (e.g. via subsystem for android, or the Google Play Games Beta) is relevant.

Sadly, an iPad remains the best option for that part (e.g. the iPad Air 5 with M1 chip), but it won't beat the versatility of a Windows tablet.
Title: Re: Surface Go 4: Microsoft to offer minor refresh this autumn with Intel Processor N200 and no ARM
Post by: Klaus.at on August 28, 2023, 14:35:33
Quote from: Klaus.at on August 24, 2023, 16:28:00Graphics performance is doubled, when going by benchmarks. This *is* a tablet, so mobile games (e.g. via subsystem for android, or the Google Play Games Beta) is relevant.

Upon better understanding... A full-clock UHD Graphics Xe 750 would have been a vast performance boost, but those benchmark were done on an i9-11900K processor ([email protected] GHz) while the N200 version is more downclocked ([email protected] GHz). Still a big jump, but not nearly as much as I thought.