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Arch is ARM, maker's TSMC. Title reads: "Russian-made"...

Apple chips: Arch - both arm, maker - both TSMC, Apple-made... So what?

Quote from: Bareback on October 20, 2022, 14:10:32Arch is ARM, maker's TSMC. Title reads: "Russian-made"...

So if I designed and built a bookcase, you say "the lumber is Canadian so you didn't make it"?

Quote from: Kirill on October 22, 2022, 04:18:40So what?

Apple, unlike the Russians, belongs to the Western camp, it has a permit. But you don't. So relax and make your lithographic machines. Also hello with a brush to the Chinese with their 28 nm, because everything else is also ASML / Cannon.

Usually such a stupid question on all forums is asked by paid Putin bots or just idiots ...

There is a Western camp on the planet, which is now much ahead of the Chinese (the only ones who pump huge resources into this business, but they corny lack high-quality brains - they run from there, and after Xi becomes an absolute dictator one of these days, they will run from there everyone who hasn't thought about it yet, so the fiasco of the CCP is already predetermined in this task). And the Russians generally lost their entire industry over the 22 years of Putin's thieves and bandits.
The other day they made the world laugh by allegedly going to get lithographic machines for the 7nm process in 6 years (despite the fact that the West will go far ahead by that time and taking into account the fact that to be ahead and catch up, i.e. to do what has already been passed advanced countries are different things). With penny costs and a complete drain of key brains. Well, the flag is in their hands. Almost all such initiatives of the corrupt authorities of the Russian Federation end in a complete fiasco.

In general, it is noticeable that Putin's bots penetrate everywhere. This is the only thing left for them - to conduct false propaganda among the illiterate, lazy inhabitants of the West and third countries. Educated people only laugh at them all over the world, Russian brains, those that still show promise, fled from there a long time ago. Now the remnants of just artisans are running. They don't have scientists. Can't a real scientist, with a broad outlook, believe their stupid propaganda and lies, looking at what is happening in Russia? In a country of monstrous lies, where even the word "peace" leads to imprisonment. And even old quotes from Putin himself on posters can lead to prison. Who wants to work and create something in such a phantasmogorical hell, except for complete madmen? That is, a priori, if a person has an advanced mind and outlook, he is not on the way with Putin and the Chinese gang. That is why the USSR outright lost the Cold War to the West - the "brains" in the USSR were one-sidedly trained (they did not have an liberated consciousness and a complete outlook because of the fear of the totalitarian government that this wide layer (and the wide one is a mandatory requirement for success in science and technology) people will start an uprising) and lost outright to the creative layer of the West. Everything was predetermined. And now, if the West itself does not screw up and turn into totalitarian states, everything will repeat itself. The hopes of Putin and Xi that the West itself will become totalitarian, which is quite likely after 2020 and the covid scam, when all human rights have been trampled on and, as history has shown, most Western citizens are simply social animals no better than the inhabitants of the Russian Federation or China. The civil stratum is rapidly shrinking even in the West, but there are still hopes that it will be able to rise up and break the degradation of the West. Well, if not, then civilization will plunge into dark ages or even millennia.

Quote from: NikoB on October 22, 2022, 20:21:24There is a Western camp on the planet, which is now much ahead of the Chinese (the only ones who pump huge resources into this business, but they corny lack high-quality brains - they run from there, and after Xi becomes an absolute dictator one of these days, they will run from there everyone who hasn't thought about it yet, so the fiasco of the CCP is already predetermined in this task). And the Russians generally lost their entire industry over the 22 years of Putin's thieves and bandits.
The other day they made the world laugh by allegedly going to get lithographic machines for the 7nm process in 6 years (despite the fact that the West will go far ahead by that time and taking into account the fact that to be ahead and catch up, i.e. to do what has already been passed advanced countries are different things). With penny costs and a complete drain of key brains. Well, the flag is in their hands. Almost all such initiatives of the corrupt authorities of the Russian Federation end in a complete fiasco.

In general, it is noticeable that Putin's bots penetrate everywhere. This is the only thing left for them - to conduct false propaganda among the illiterate, lazy inhabitants of the West and third countries. Educated people only laugh at them all over the world, Russian brains, those that still show promise, fled from there a long time ago. Now the remnants of just artisans are running. They don't have scientists. Can't a real scientist, with a broad outlook, believe their stupid propaganda and lies, looking at what is happening in Russia? In a country of monstrous lies, where even the word "peace" leads to imprisonment. And even old quotes from Putin himself on posters can lead to prison. Who wants to work and create something in such a phantasmogorical hell, except for complete madmen? That is, a priori, if a person has an advanced mind and outlook, he is not on the way with Putin and the Chinese gang. That is why the USSR outright lost the Cold War to the West - the "brains" in the USSR were one-sidedly trained (they did not have an liberated consciousness and a complete outlook because of the fear of the totalitarian government that this wide layer (and the wide one is a mandatory requirement for success in science and technology) people will start an uprising) and lost outright to the creative layer of the West. Everything was predetermined. And now, if the West itself does not screw up and turn into totalitarian states, everything will repeat itself. The hopes of Putin and Xi that the West itself will become totalitarian, which is quite likely after 2020 and the covid scam, when all human rights have been trampled on and, as history has shown, most Western citizens are simply social animals no better than the inhabitants of the Russian Federation or China. The civil stratum is rapidly shrinking even in the West, but there are still hopes that it will be able to rise up and break the degradation of the West. Well, if not, then civilization will plunge into dark ages or even millennia.

bro... meds. i think you forgot your meds.

How is this Russian made?
ARM cores from the UK/Japan and fabbed by Taiwan...

Putin putting together an IKEA bookcase designed in Sweden, produced in Poland by a company with a Dutch holding is more Russian than that chip 🤦

Quote from: Fre on October 23, 2022, 00:51:38How is this Russian made?
ARM cores from the UK/Japan and fabbed by Taiwan...

Putin putting together an IKEA bookcase designed in Sweden, produced in Poland by a company with a Dutch holding is more Russian than that chip 🤦

If it was actually Russian-made, they might be able to make more! Sadly, nah. Maybe they will be able to use SMIC in the future.

The software is more important than who made the hardware. The 8-core Baikal BE-M1000 could have made for a nice Pi competitor. The Pi sucks and the Chinese clones suck, typically because of the state of support.

Quote from: 4x on October 22, 2022, 23:54:50...

Some people think with their heads, while for others it is more likely only for eating. Which category do you belong to, I think a rhetorical question. Write at least one paragraph of reasoned text to begin with. Rest...

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The difference between the "paper" versions of processors from the Russian Federation and companies like AMD is that AMD has guaranteed (competitive) access to the factories of the Western Alliance, which includes Taiwan, South Korea and Japan. The Russians can only rely on the resources of the mainland Chinese from 2022, who today have only 28nm of their own, according to the latest data. And 14nm with the help of ASML equipment, which is no longer supplied to them and is not serviced by the old one (all Western specialists leave China forcibly), i.e. it will quickly decline. So what's next China / Russia on their own, and the West on its own. This is bad from the point of view of globalization. But you can't flow openly to totalitarian countries, although after what happened in 2020, as I wrote earlier, to the "free" world there are only continuous questions from civil activists and real liberals, and not syslibs (systemic liberals dependent on those who pay them), who only pretend to protect human rights and freedoms. Real liberals in the West, today, need to clear the Augean stables of that s*** that has accumulated by constant systematic violations of constitutions. And to make it all the more difficult with the general degradation of the mentality of the majority of the population on the planet.

neon, is 50% from Ukraine and 40% from Russia.

without it: no chips.

titanium: no aircraft.

... long list.

TIME HAS COME !

STATUS-6 IS WAITING !

Quote from: g4 on October 24, 2022, 07:52:47neon, is 50% from Ukraine and 40% from Russia.  without it: no chips. titanium: no aircraft.

Chips continue to be produced, as do aircraft... =)
Another stupid propaganda from the Russian Federation and Putin stupid bot. It's funny to tears, but after all, for some poorly educated people, mainly in the Russian Federation, and some in the West. Including a diaspora of former Russians with a secondary education (most often) who speak out in defense of Putin.

Let me remind you that in the USA there were 31-32% of people with higher education in 2021. In Russia, about the same, according to the statements of the authorities for 2021, and at the same time, they assure that in the USSR there were only 11% of people with higher education, although many educated people understand that education (in the USSR) in the natural sciences (but not from the point of view of a full-fledged outlook) and modern education are incomparable, in favor of the old education, as well as the breadth of this qualitative layer then and now.
In China, 15.5-17% of the population as of 2021 had a higher education (and about the same number of people had completed secondary education, apparently college level), i.e. not much more than in the USSR (including secondary vocational education), according to official figures. Which does not prevent China from being ahead of the Russian Federation at times in terms of the speed of development, despite the old potential left over from the USSR, which once still influenced the industrial development of the Russian Federation. But thanks to the complete real degradation of education in the Russian Federation (a lot of fake and bought diplomas or disgusting "higher" education in private universities for money and a lot of fake candidates of science and doctors, scandals with the purchase of diplomas of candidates and doctors of science have long become a byword and a very strong bias towards the humanities, economics and jurisprudence, which is obvious in the gas station country, where many are already engaged in trade), where the public point of view prevails in the Russian Federation that if you paid, you are required to give a certificate of higher education, although this is not unrelated things, but such is the mentality of the crowd).
At the same time, according to international youth education statistics, young Chinese (and South Koreans) have the highest scores in mathematics and science, where even young people from the United States are far from first place in the second ten. And the Russian Federation, in terms of the level of education, according to the same statistics, has already fallen by 2020 below the average for the planet. So where can a wide layer of human capital come from in order not only to catch up with the Western countries (with all their progressive shortcomings), but also to get ahead? Even China cannot do this. Because the highest category of brains requires a certain socio-economic ecosystem, completely incompatible with the totalitarian system.
China now, after the start of the third fully authoritarian rule of Xi, has gone downhill, and the Russian Federation shows what can be achieved in the end, completely losing human capital over a century, and even deliberately finishing off the remnants like cannon fodder. It's like shooting sparrows with a howitzer. But Putin and his clique don't care. As is Xi. If only to maintain power and a comfortable existence for their lifetime ...

Some time ago, an analysis was made of the quality of pending patents in China and in the West, and it turned out that most of the patents in China are of poor quality. Which does not prevent propagandists from totalitarian countries from yelling at every corner that China has surpassed the United States in the number of patents. But educated people understand that a one patent is different from a another patent, right? Investments in basic capital since 2015 in China have been continuously falling, and the problems in society are only growing. Population aging, poor productivity (for example, in the Russian Federation, agricultural productivity is more than 4 times worse than in the United States, and in China it is even lower than in Russia, while China is a clean net-importer of food on planet) , demographic problems, huge debts and a totalitarian system, this is an explosive mixture that is gradually leading the CCP elite to the same desire as in Russia to start channeling the mob's anger over the worsening living standards (and it has already begun in China) to the outside "enemy", i.e. again leads to military escalation. And soon China will need to steal advanced chips and other equipment somewhere so that the powerful layers can survive...

I can emphasize once again that the world as a whole is getting worse and worse at a turning point, but nevertheless, educated cadres of all countries strive to live and create in the West, no one goes to China, except to make money on a rotational basis (both among scientists and engineers, there are many who do not care about the moral aspect of their actions). Even the majority of Chinese students (about 1 million study at US universities every year), those who receive the greatest outlook and education, and despite the fact that the Chinese authorities are ready to pay them even more than in the United States in recent years, are not ready to return to a totalitarian society and live there with their families and children, preferring to stay in the West, albeit mired in problems that are also growing like a snowball. Therefore, US universities and laboratories are full of people of Asian and Indian origin (which is much easier, because they were a colony of England and almost the entire elite knows English well, unlike Chinese).
And despite the flourishing of totalitarian morals in the West since 2020 and the obvious incitement of populism in all countries (did you know that the new prime minister of Italy does not have a higher education (only secondary special education) and came out of the ultra-right circles supporting Mussolini's policies?) among the political beau monde and civil confrontation, the majority of young educated people on the planet do not see a future in China, even "democratic" India (where the "middle" class by Western standards does not exceed 5% of the population), and even more so in the now nightmarish, according to the mental level of society, Russia, quickly approaching the complete collapse of society, and not just its powerful stratum.

Today, by the way, there is a new joke on the forums, in view of the new prime minister of England - India used to be a colony of England, and now England is a colony of India...

Europe has practically updated its top leadership with people under 60 (even up to 50), mostly populists, and only in the USA are the elders still ruling. Has the US ceased to be an advanced society? Who will seize the lead in the most socially advanced society now on planet? Africa? There are doubts...

Western bots burning in comments, because their countries are losing hegemony over the world :))

Quote from: Julie on October 25, 2022, 07:43:36Western bots burning in comments, because their countries are losing hegemony over the world :))

Only Russian bots use "hegemony". Must suck to have to program your bots with Websters dictionary from 1995.

Quote from: Julie on October 25, 2022, 07:43:36Western bots burning in comments, because their countries are losing hegemony over the world :))

The East has a lot of catching up to do however the West is going to lose a lot of access to cheap resources. Biden has been on a mission to fight with the rest of the world. China over technology, Russia over LNG, Myanmar and Iran over weapons supply, north Korea and Pakistan over nuclear missiles, Saudi over oil and yesterday Nicaragua over gold. Africa has a lot of Russian supporters as well due to extensive exploitation by the West. Sure it resulted In lots of development but most of its resources are still controlled by western companies. People don't support Russia as much as they are against America and the double standards of the West.

Putin huesos
No need Baikal