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Title: GeForce RTX 3050 hammers another nail in the Radeon RX 6500 XT's coffin in benchmark comparison
Post by: Redaktion on January 23, 2022, 19:50:54
Synthetic benchmark results for the upcoming Nvidia GeForce RTX 3050 graphics card have been shared, and it seems to be another nail in the coffin for the brand-new AMD Radeon RX 6500 XT board. While the RTX 3050 appears to be likely yet another successful addition to Team Green's lineup, the much-lambasted RX 6500 XT is practically destined to fail.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/GeForce-RTX-3050-hammers-another-nail-in-the-Radeon-RX-6500-XT-s-coffin-in-benchmark-comparison.595119.0.html
Title: Re: GeForce RTX 3050 hammers another nail in the Radeon RX 6500 XT's coffin in benchmark comparison
Post by: Anonymousgg on January 24, 2022, 00:07:20
Quotethe much-lambasted RX 6500 XT is practically destined to fail.

Except the RTX 3050 will be $150-200 more than wherever the 6500 XT street price lands.
Title: Re: GeForce RTX 3050 hammers another nail in the Radeon RX 6500 XT's coffin in benchmark comparison
Post by: Rob Stan on January 24, 2022, 05:52:07
What a ridiculous article.

So a 25% more MSRP expensive card that's between only 2 to 23% faster in some SYNTHETICS than it's competition. Wow what a crushing feat of value! Ignoring that MSRP means little for a second.

The GA-106 die inside the 3050 is also over 2,5x bigger tha the Navi24 inside 6500 XT, let that sink in.

The 3050 will be both much more heavily scalped than the 6500 XT AND scarcely available (it's sharing the same die as the 3060... which brings better margins to nVidia). So expect much steeper price hikes vs MSRP for it than the 6500 XT.

Also the line about 6500 XT being "criticised" for being "bad at mining" is just the tech world's chef's kiss of fake news and bizarre statements. If anything, that's one of the few good things it has going for it.
Title: Re: GeForce RTX 3050 hammers another nail in the Radeon RX 6500 XT's coffin in benchmark comparison
Post by: Damien on January 24, 2022, 07:23:25
Quote from: Rob Stan on January 24, 2022, 05:52:07
What a ridiculous article.

So a 25% more MSRP expensive card that's between only 2 to 23% faster in some SYNTHETICS than it's competition. Wow what a crushing feat of value! Ignoring that MSRP means little for a second.

The GA-106 die inside the 3050 is also over 2,5x bigger tha the Navi24 inside 6500 XT, let that sink in.

The 3050 will be both much more heavily scalped than the 6500 XT AND scarcely available (it's sharing the same die as the 3060... which brings better margins to nVidia). So expect much steeper price hikes vs MSRP for it than the 6500 XT.

Also the line about 6500 XT being "criticised" for being "bad at mining" is just the tech world's chef's kiss of fake news and bizarre statements. If anything, that's one of the few good things it has going for it.

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Title: Re: GeForce RTX 3050 hammers another nail in the Radeon RX 6500 XT's coffin in benchmark comparison
Post by: t4n0n on January 24, 2022, 09:04:32
Quote from: Rob Stan on January 24, 2022, 05:52:07
What a ridiculous article.

So a 25% more MSRP expensive card that's between only 2 to 23% faster in some SYNTHETICS than it's competition. Wow what a crushing feat of value! Ignoring that MSRP means little for a second.

The GA-106 die inside the 3050 is also over 2,5x bigger tha the Navi24 inside 6500 XT, let that sink in.

The 3050 will be both much more heavily scalped than the 6500 XT AND scarcely available (it's sharing the same die as the 3060... which brings better margins to nVidia). So expect much steeper price hikes vs MSRP for it than the 6500 XT.

Also the line about 6500 XT being "criticised" for being "bad at mining" is just the tech world's chef's kiss of fake news and bizarre statements. If anything, that's one of the few good things it has going for it.

I think you're forgetting the concept of marginal utility here. The marginal utility of a $3000 car that has a top speed of 75mph vs a $2400 car that can only do 60mph is enormous.

Similar idea with a $300 oven that can achieve a max temperature of 200°c vs a $240 one that only does 160°c. 8GB vs 4GB is also a massive difference.

Your point about the dies is plain wrong as well, as that logic would only be relevant if we were at the commercial launch of the GA106 die, in a completely unconstrained supply chain scenario, as opposed to almost two years later, in the worst global supply chain crisis since the Second World War, with the launch of Lovelace right around the corner.

That's two years worth of stockpiled defective GA106 dies that are physically incapable of being sold as RTX 3060s, so the idea that Nvidia would constrain supply in favour of the RTX 3060 is obviously incorrect.
Title: Re: GeForce RTX 3050 hammers another nail in the Radeon RX 6500 XT's coffin in benchmark comparison
Post by: Nonsense on January 24, 2022, 09:22:28
What a complete non sense. Shame on the author. The 6500 xt is best selling card. I know it's bad when you compare it 5 year old cards, but AMD supplies the card given current market conditions. We are not living in the past. Also if you save every penny AMD will be much more power efficient.
Title: Re: GeForce RTX 3050 hammers another nail in the Radeon RX 6500 XT's coffin in benchmark comparison
Post by: Russel on January 24, 2022, 14:51:50
Well. 3050 is useful for mining and gaming. So it wouldn't be available to buy.

6500XT is equally shitty for mining and gaming. So it would be available to buy.
Title: Re: GeForce RTX 3050 hammers another nail in the Radeon RX 6500 XT's coffin in benchmark comparison
Post by: Spunjji on January 25, 2022, 11:36:23
"unless price hikes and unavailability kill the GeForce card's momentum from the off."
Talk about burying the lede! We already know from projected pricing that the price difference between the cards is going to outstrip the performance differences. Nvidia can't make and sell enough of these to change that, whereas AMD stand a chance of actually keeping up with demand.
Title: Re: GeForce RTX 3050 hammers another nail in the Radeon RX 6500 XT's coffin in benchmark comparison
Post by: JohnIL on January 25, 2022, 15:29:09
It's a base model card? Not expecting a serious gamer review will ever give a great review for a low-end model. OK, so a 5-year-old card can match the 6500. Big deal, do you want to buy a 5-year-old card for about what a new 6500 costs? I guess maybe if you can buy it much cheaper, but how much longer will it be supported? Lot of people still like gaming with minimal specs at 1080p or less. With the supply crunch this might be OK at retail price if you can find it. Otherwise, this all could be for naught anyway.
Title: Re: GeForce RTX 3050 hammers another nail in the Radeon RX 6500 XT's coffin in benchmark comparison
Post by: Kennethneits on November 03, 2022, 01:42:34
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