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Title: 2021 HP Envy 14 Laptop Review: Tiger Lake, 16:10 and GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Max-Q All-In-One
Post by: Redaktion on February 03, 2021, 20:54:07
Unveiled at CES 2021, the latest Envy 14 incorporates almost everything great about last year's 15.6-inch Envy 15 but in a more portable 14-inch form factor. It's one of HP's fastest laptops in this screen size to make it a solid option for those who want to maximize performance without settling for larger alternatives.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/2021-HP-Envy-14-Laptop-Review-Tiger-Lake-16-10-and-GeForce-GTX-1650-Ti-Max-Q-All-In-One.517755.0.html
Title: Re: 2021 HP Envy 14 Laptop Review: Tiger Lake, 16:10 and GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Max-Q All-In-One
Post by: I Carumba on February 03, 2021, 23:45:33
glossy NO!

Stop putting super reflective, glossy screens into laptops.  DO NOT WANT.

Hard pass because of this.
Title: Re: 2021 HP Envy 14 Laptop Review: Tiger Lake, 16:10 and GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Max-Q All-In-One
Post by: Dorby on February 04, 2021, 01:29:15
"A fingerprint reader replaces what would have otherwise been the Ctrl key"

I hate it when they do this. Who thought this was a good idea?
A minor thing like this could be a potentially huge deal-breaker for so many people who were excited to buy the laptop.
Title: Re: 2021 HP Envy 14 Laptop Review: Tiger Lake, 16:10 and GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Max-Q All-In-One
Post by: Grinnie Jax on February 04, 2021, 05:26:12
1.5 hours under load is not what I expect from 2021 laptop, to be honest. Probably, what sense from that NVIDIA card running 2015 game at 30 fps? Just a power hog.
Title: Re: 2021 HP Envy 14 Laptop Review: Tiger Lake, 16:10 and GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Max-Q All-In-One
Post by: Dorby on February 04, 2021, 08:48:09
"The 13.3-inch Razer Blade Stealth and 15.6-inch MSI E15 Summit are some more examples with the same GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Max-Q."

Seriously come on guys, no hardware, performance and power efficiency comparison to a laptop's closest competitors throughout the entire review? Not even one gaming benchmark for the MSI Summit you JUST did a review on within the same week?

What's going on?
Title: Re: 2021 HP Envy 14 Laptop Review: Tiger Lake, 16:10 and GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Max-Q All-In-One
Post by: I Carumba on February 05, 2021, 00:18:20
I hope the 15 inch version makes use of the 60w 3060.   

Once again, Hard Pass on Glossy, super reflective screens.

Nobody needs touchscreens.  These aren't kids toys.
Title: Re: 2021 HP Envy 14 Laptop Review: Tiger Lake, 16:10 and GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Max-Q All-In-One
Post by: Marbaf on February 05, 2021, 09:57:51
Still no Ryzen version announced?
Title: Re: 2021 HP Envy 14 Laptop Review: Tiger Lake, 16:10 and GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Max-Q All-In-One
Post by: Pablo_Sansibar on February 06, 2021, 10:23:47
I might add, that the model I am considering to buy, comes with an intel iris x gpu, i7 11th gen and a nonreflecting 400 nits screen. That seems to be a lot better version (also double ssd, 512gb), right?
Title: Re: 2021 HP Envy 14 Laptop Review: Tiger Lake, 16:10 and GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Max-Q All-In-One
Post by: oofie on February 06, 2021, 17:50:14
I just got this laptop yesterday, with this exact same spec, and I might say, it is an amazing value. The 1650 TI is the 35W variant, BUT with MSI afterburner, I increased the power limit and overclocked it from 1440 under load to a solid 1700 MHz under load, with it drawing 50W. Also, I overclocked the VRAM to 1450 MHz. I got a 10-15 fps improvement in games. When gaming, the temperatures are pretty good at a solid 80 degrees, with the fans no longer fluctuating. Honestly, I think this is an amazing laptop, and with it overclocked, it performs even better than the razer blade stealth, and it can be a proper gaming laptop, if you overclock it.
Title: Re: 2021 HP Envy 14 Laptop Review: Tiger Lake, 16:10 and GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Max-Q All-In-One
Post by: Dorby on February 07, 2021, 04:35:26
Jarrod from Jarrod'sTech on Youtube discovered that 35W GTX1650 Max-Q and 35W GTX1650 Ti Max-Q graphics' performance parity was less than 5%.

Same goes for Max-P versions of the 2 chips, hence why the 1650 Ti is a rip-off. Get the 1650, or upgrade to a 1660Ti. 1650 Ti, especially the Max-Q is not worth the price premium over a normal 1650, even more so than a 15W i5 over an i7.
Title: Re: 2021 HP Envy 14 Laptop Review: Tiger Lake, 16:10 and GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Max-Q All-In-One
Post by: Josiah on February 14, 2021, 19:01:51
Is the base screen touch? If so, definitely a winner.
Title: Re: 2021 HP Envy 14 Laptop Review: Tiger Lake, 16:10 and GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Max-Q All-In-One
Post by: Schniptzel on August 06, 2021, 23:07:27
Quote from: oofie on February 06, 2021, 17:50:14
I just got this laptop yesterday, with this exact same spec, and I might say, it is an amazing value. The 1650 TI is the 35W variant, BUT with MSI afterburner, I increased the power limit and overclocked it from 1440 under load to a solid 1700 MHz under load, with it drawing 50W. Also, I overclocked the VRAM to 1450 MHz. I got a 10-15 fps improvement in games. When gaming, the temperatures are pretty good at a solid 80 degrees, with the fans no longer fluctuating. Honestly, I think this is an amazing laptop, and with it overclocked, it performs even better than the razer blade stealth, and it can be a proper gaming laptop, if you overclock it.

Can you tell me how you lifted the powerlimit? I canĀ“t do this with my hp envy 14.
Title: Re: 2021 HP Envy 14 Laptop Review: Tiger Lake, 16:10 and GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Max-Q All-In-One
Post by: AntonPoke on July 17, 2022, 04:42:19
Is it possible to  completely switch to a dedicated GPU to run an internal laptop screen?
Title: Re: 2021 HP Envy 14 Laptop Review: Tiger Lake, 16:10 and GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Max-Q All-In-One
Post by: Dorby on July 17, 2022, 06:31:43
Quote from: AntonPoke on July 17, 2022, 04:42:19Is it possible to  completely switch to a dedicated GPU to run an internal laptop screen?
No, that is only possible on certain gaming laptops that has either one of the following technologies onboard - MUX Switch, Advanced Optimus, or SmartShift Max.

This laptop uses Standard Optimus which cannot completely switch to dGPU since it always works through the iGPU.