It's 2020 and high-end Windows PCs are still shipping with 4 GB of RAM for some reason. Do yourself a favor and avoid this one if you intend to do more than just web browsing with a few open tabs.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-Surface-Pro-7-with-laughable-4-GB-RAM-on-sale-for-599.459297.0.html
It might make sense at an under $500 price point... low end competing with android and non-pro ipad tablets... and low end PCs. but at $599 when they have been selling the i5/8gb/128gb for $799 with type cover for a while now isn't really a deal. Although it did see the i5 boosted back up to over $1000 when this sale went live to make it look better.
i can tell you guys when and why 4gb is good.
1. buy a device you like with the best screen/cpu/gpu/other non-upgradable options, but with 4gb of ram and a hdd
2. upgrade immediately to 8+8 fastest ram and fastest/low temp ssd(or add ssd to hdd)
3. profit!
Quote from: william blake on March 28, 2020, 23:14:18
i can tell you guys when and why 4gb is good.
1. buy a device you like with the best screen/cpu/gpu/other non-upgradable options, but with 4gb of ram and a hdd
2. upgrade immediately to 8+8 fastest ram and fastest/low temp ssd(or add ssd to hdd)
3. profit!
Try updating RAM and SSD on a Surface Pro 7 and get back to us with your results ;)
Quote from: heffeque on March 29, 2020, 01:27:55
Try updating RAM and SSD on a Surface Pro 7 and get back to us with your results ;)
oh well, i was talking laptops only, pads and phones are another animals. but ok you got me.
Some would say, "Buy it and run Linux" :)
These surface tablets are complete garbage. Have fun trying to fix them once they break. Not only are they too expensive for what they put in them, they have a lot of quirks that ruin the tablet when you try to replace parts. Microsoft should stick with windows and xbox, not tablets.
It is laughable that MS sells a Go with 64 GB eMMC and Pro 7 (or 6...or 2017...or even 4) with a miserable i3 "G1" with 4 GB RAM........ my S9 Plus and specially almost every medium class smartphone has more than that (and faster CPU...).
So shame on MS. The SP7 should start with 8 GB RAM, i5 G1, 128 GB as the cheapest (699€ is already expensive) and then the i5 G4 8 GB RAM, 256 GB for 799€, then the same i5 16 GB RAM, 512 GB ssd for 999€. And the i7 G7 as 16 GB RAM and 512 GB as minimum for 1199 and the same i7 32 GB RAM, 1 TB for 1500€. These prices would be great as people has still to buy a keyboard and perhaps pen.
Actual prices are very high and deliver just OK hardware specs.
"...and 128 GB of storage to be barely enough for Windows 10."
Come on, I don't disagree that minimum ram should generally be considered 8 gigs, and while 128 gigs of storage is small, it's so far beyond "barely enough for Windows 10" that it calls into question the validity of this entire article. I have a Dell Venue 8 from years back, and Windows 10 fits on it's 32 gigs of storage with *some* room to spare. I would agree few should buy a Windows system with only 128 gigs of storage, but if you're just doing online stuff, it would be fine.
Quote from: SteveQ on March 29, 2020, 21:08:36
"...and 128 GB of storage to be barely enough for Windows 10."
Come on, I don't disagree that minimum ram should generally be considered 8 gigs, and while 128 gigs of storage is small, it's so far beyond "barely enough for Windows 10" that it calls into question the validity of this entire article. I have a Dell Venue 8 from years back, and Windows 10 fits on it's 32 gigs of storage with *some* room to spare. I would agree few should buy a Windows system with only 128 gigs of storage, but if you're just doing online stuff, it would be fine.
...get a Chromebook?
It is NOT true that 4GB is underpowered for very common use cases. I used a 4GB Surface Pro 2017 with m3 cpu for months and it was perfectly responsive for email, lots and lots of open webpages, and a surprising amount of multi-tasking. I had no regrets.
The bad part was that I was seduced by its good performance into gradually adding mostly-work-related apps onto it until background processes increased and the registry aged-in, and then (but only then) did it bog down. I counted over 60 apps at that point, some of them demanding work apps. If I'd left it alone with home-related uses, it would've been fine.
I reset it and gave it to my daughter, who has used it fine for almost a year for email, web, MS Word music and light gaming. Even short video editing (slow rendering but fine for family shorts). No problems, very responsive.
the bad is 8 gig ram is with at least core i5 and that cpu is more than what many people need. an i3 with 8 gig ram and 128 or 256 gig ssd option could sell better i think