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Posted by Paul Prochnow
 - July 26, 2019, 17:16:09
Hi....I tried a test with a new cooler. This CPU is only 2 wks. old for me.

5725 is not the highest number ever recorded, i know.
No links for me as a noob I guess.

icro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-7B79
Single-Core Score   Multi-Core Score
5725   47070
Geekbench 4.3.4 Tryout for Windows x86 (64-bit)
Result Information
Upload Date   July 26 2019 02:50 PM
Views   6
System Information
System Information   
Operating System   Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)
Model   Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-7B79
Motherboard   Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. X470 GAMING PLUS (MS-7B79)
Memory   32768 MB DDR4 SDRAM 1672MHz
Northbridge   AMD Ryzen SOC 00
Southbridge   AMD X470 51
BIOS   American Megatrends Inc. A.A0
Processor Information   
Name   AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
Topology   1 Processor, 12 Cores, 24 Threads
Identifier   AuthenticAMD Family 23 Model 113 Stepping 0
Base Frequency   3.80 GHz
Maximum Frequency   4.54 GHz
Package   
Codename   Matisse
L1 Instruction Cache   32.0 KB x 12
L1 Data Cache   32.0 KB x 12
L2 Cache   512 KB x 12
L3 Cache   16.0 MB x 4
Single-Core Performance
Single-Core Score   5725   
Crypto Score   7013   
Integer Score   5338   
Floating Point Score   5578   
Memory Score   6496   
AES
7013
5.28 GB/sec   

LZMA
5713
8.92 MB/sec   

JPEG
5219
42.0 Mpixels/sec   

Canny
4932
68.4 Mpixels/sec   

Lua
4687
4.82 MB/sec   

Dijkstra
6428
4.35 MTE/sec   

SQLite
4792
132.9 Krows/sec   

HTML5 Parse
4469
20.3 MB/sec   

HTML5 DOM
5977
5.42 MElements/sec   

Histogram Equalization
4101
128.2 Mpixels/sec   

PDF Rendering
5101
135.5 Mpixels/sec   

LLVM
8083
555.8 functions/sec   

Camera
5590
15.5 images/sec   

SGEMM
4634
98.0 Gflops   

SFFT
5520
13.8 Gflops   

N-Body Physics
5738
4.29 Mpairs/sec   

Ray Tracing
5453
796.3 Kpixels/sec   

Rigid Body Physics
5738
16798.1 FPS   

HDR
5303
19.2 Mpixels/sec   

Gaussian Blur
5901
103.4 Mpixels/sec   

Speech Recognition
6051
51.8 Words/sec   

Face Detection
6016
1.76 Msubwindows/sec   

Memory Copy
7278
20.2 GB/sec   

Memory Latency
5383
80.4 ns   

Memory Bandwidth
6997
37.4 GB/sec   

Multi-Core Performance
Multi-Core Score   47070   
Crypto Score   20287   
Integer Score   59193   
Floating Point Score   59893   
Memory Score   7254   
AES
20287
15.3 GB/sec   

LZMA
80775
126.2 MB/sec   

JPEG
70637
568.4 Mpixels/sec   

Canny
41576
576.5 Mpixels/sec   

Lua
69208
71.1 MB/sec   

Dijkstra
40177
27.2 MTE/sec   

SQLite
51807
1.44 Mrows/sec   

HTML5 Parse
55348
251.3 MB/sec   

HTML5 DOM
71405
64.7 MElements/sec   

Histogram Equalization
53508
1.67 Gpixels/sec   

PDF Rendering
36955
981.8 Mpixels/sec   

LLVM
100784
6.93 Kfunctions/sec   

Camera
68754
190.6 images/sec   

SGEMM
48436
1.02 Tflops   

SFFT
65799
164.0 Gflops   

N-Body Physics
79395
59.3 Mpairs/sec   

Ray Tracing
40655
5.94 Mpixels/sec   

Rigid Body Physics
55697
163046.5 FPS   

HDR
55974
202.9 Mpixels/sec   

Gaussian Blur
68402
1.20 Gpixels/sec   

Speech Recognition
62885
538.0 Words/sec   

Face Detection
71891
21.0 Msubwindows/sec   

Memory Copy
9332
25.9 GB/sec   

Memory Latency
5291
81.8 ns   
Posted by Astar
 - July 23, 2019, 18:44:57
Quote from: A on July 22, 2019, 21:37:02
@mikhail - it isn't who uses single core, it is more of the fact that most programming languages were not created with multicore/multithread in mind.

When multithread was added to programming languages, many implementations have been messy patches. Add to the fact that most programmers learn to write code for single thread (because that was how it was always done). And things get complicated...

Add to the fact that the webbrowser is mostly single thread and that is why we've been stuck dependent on single thread.

The bright side is that things are improving on both the programming space and the browser space. But it'll still take some time for things to sink in.

Are you trying to impress us with 20 year old legacy programming truisms & history?

Are you so outdated you have not noticed that the latest most cutting edge software like games are already implementing spade loads of multi-threaded parallel programming? Even ray tracing requires shed loads of parallel programming goodness.

Single threaded performance is so passe. Its the old paradigm where Intel tells you to shut down all other apps before you can run a game (else it stutters like hell). Or that pop up that tells you to shut down everything else even when installing a piece of software!

Besides, you are also extremely outdated (at least 10 years) in terms of real world consumer usage of computing devices. Real world users run multiple software apps simultaneously all the time. On my PC I have up to three modern multi-threaded browsers each running dozens of tabs, streaming video or news, not to mention messaging and productivity apps running constantly in the background. That is multi-threaded processing at work, you dinosaur!

Even gaming is hardly single threaded. Modern gaming involves STREAMING the gameplay live at the same time. That requires multi-core multi-threaded performance GEDDIT?! That is where AMD shines and blows Intel completely away.

There is a reason why Android takes up close to 90% of the world's market share! It is an OS that has prioritised multi-threaded performance with multi-core (typically hexacore or octacore) CPUs since day one. AMD is using that same understanding of workloads the way ARM/Qualcomm are - building many efficient cores to perform a lot of tasks and running lots of software simultaneously in as fast/efficient manner as possible.

Posted by Astar
 - July 23, 2019, 18:30:36
Quote from: Wout on July 23, 2019, 14:50:42
Quote from: Matteo Mazzone on July 22, 2019, 18:03:51
So, are we just going to ignore that the Apple A12x has a higher multi-core score than this chip? Or that the "105W" 3900x basically has 3x the multicore score?

Exactly - the scores for A12X are 5053/18258 at presumably a fraction of the TDP. I bet Apple is going to release an ARM macbook next year - Intel can't compete.


That's dumb! When your silly Mac launches on ARM, you will have a whole world of pain when software built on x86/x64 stops running or ported versions crashes all the time!

Else any emulated versions of said software will run significantly slower & laggier compared to running natively on x86/x64. As the Qualcomm experience already has proven.

You can't even tell the difference between a crappy toy OS like iOS and real x86/x64 software used by corporates. Sheesh...
Posted by Astar
 - July 23, 2019, 18:25:58
Quote from: Vaidyanathan on July 22, 2019, 16:01:19
Quote from: sridhar kondoji on July 22, 2019, 15:54:46

Do you really think Zen 2 APUs would be able to take on Intel? Desktop, yes. AMD has a winner. Laptops, I think not yet.

Do you not even know that AMD's 7nm Zen 2 APUs have not been launched yet? Why don't you wait until then?!
Posted by Jac
 - July 23, 2019, 16:40:16
I call shenanigans, and I think what you meant to say was "take these benchmarks with a grain of salt." There's no way a laptop chip is coming close to a desktop chip.
Posted by e-baisa
 - July 23, 2019, 15:41:21
Geekbench on PC and IOS is not even running the same load, so the scores can not be compared.
Posted by Wout
 - July 23, 2019, 14:50:42
Quote from: Matteo Mazzone on July 22, 2019, 18:03:51
So, are we just going to ignore that the Apple A12x has a higher multi-core score than this chip? Or that the "105W" 3900x basically has 3x the multicore score?

Exactly - the scores for A12X are 5053/18258 at presumably a fraction of the TDP. I bet Apple is going to release an ARM macbook next year - Intel can't compete.
Posted by hfm
 - July 23, 2019, 04:12:31
Wow OK. I was going to buy a Ryzen 3900X, but I guess I better wait for this chip instead. /s

Comparison is apples and oranges. Plus why not just say it's as fast as an i7-8700K in single core instead?

And also, the TDP comparison is flawed. How much power is the 3900X drawing when stressing single core? Definitely nowhere near 105W.
Posted by heffeque
 - July 23, 2019, 00:30:59
And how much will it score after having to patch it to solve security issues?
Posted by A
 - July 22, 2019, 21:37:02
@mikhail - it isn't who uses single core, it is more of the fact that most programming languages were not created with multicore/multithread in mind.

When multithread was added to programming languages, many implementations have been messy patches. Add to the fact that most programmers learn to write code for single thread (because that was how it was always done). And things get complicated...

Add to the fact that the webbrowser is mostly single thread and that is why we've been stuck dependent on single thread.

The bright side is that things are improving on both the programming space and the browser space. But it'll still take some time for things to sink in.
Posted by Fatfaldog
 - July 22, 2019, 21:02:27
I bet this result achieved using Turbo boost. So, CPU work with real TDP around 35-40 watt(why everybody forget about this?) . Like my 8650U CPU.
15 watt TDP only for base clock.

AMD CPU real tdp 105 watt. So, if we remove 2/3 amd cores we can have around 105/3=35 TDP on quad core chip... And comparable multithread and single thread performance and perfomance per watt.
Posted by mikhail
 - July 22, 2019, 20:16:17
 Hello guys, the article FORGOTTEN to mension about multi-thread performance. Who uses these days single? So, AMD 3 times more !!!
Posted by cosine
 - July 22, 2019, 18:23:56
Interestingly, compared to my i7-8650, the biggest gain is the memory score, which goes to 5819.
Posted by Matteo Mazzone
 - July 22, 2019, 18:03:51
So, are we just going to ignore that the Apple A12x has a higher multi-core score than this chip? Or that the "105W" 3900x basically has 3x the multicore score?
Posted by S.Yu
 - July 22, 2019, 17:00:08
Just when Razer came out with their workstations and I thought the wait was over...