Makes sense to me. Previously the 2080 had no real reason to exist over the 2070 Super - the 2080 Super resolves that without encroaching on the (presumably fairly lucrative) territory the 2080Ti occupies.

Overall, it seems like a pretty standard Nvidia mid-cycle refresh: take advantage of improved yields and bins to drop each chip down a level in cost. It's a still a shame that costs have inflated so much in the first place, though - I don't think RTX is enough of a value-add to this generation to warrant that.

From what I'm seeing the 2080S actually IS going to be about 10% higher performance than the standard across the board. Not as big a difference as the 2060S/2070S but that's because they leapt a whole chip model! The 2060S is a pared down 2070 and 2070S is pared down 2080. Having all the cores unlocked on specially binned 2080s for the Super, 100Mhz higher clock and 15.5gbps vram instead of 14gbps will be quite a bit of difference

The article doesn't say that the 2080 Super should surpass the 2080ti. It says that it doesn't narrow the gap (or exceed the 2080 vanilla) as much as some people might hope from the praise the 2060 Super has received.  That's useful information for a consumer (if you trust @TUM_APISAK's numbers.)

It's not reviewers' job to get people "excited" over every product introduction. Nvidia, EVGA, and the others issue plenty of press releases and post plenty of ads if that's what you want to read.

Hi Mr Author,

What did you expect?
You thought the 2080S could be better than 2080 Ti?
Did you have nothing else to write?
I suggest you to study more before you attempt to write again.

Well that's the dumbest headline I've ever seen. Thank you Captain Obvious, you'd almost think sitting between the vanilla 2080 and the TI was it's entire reason for EXISTING or something.

Hurr-durrz.

Most people who buy high end cards are chasing high fps and high resolution. Rtx in its present state kills performance. It's a shame nvidia does not offer a non rtx version. I'd happily pay the same price for a non rtx 2080 super that used a little less power and ran cooler. Ray Tracing is nice, it makes a great screenshot look amazing as a desktop wallpaper but I doubt anyone running around in a killing frenzy in Cs go has time to check out reflections. Ray Tracing will be big but... In a few years when there are more games and it can perform faster at higher resolution.. Until then it's just an nvidia add on... Albeit an expensive one

Quote from: Smartroad on July 18, 2019, 20:48:34
What about how it compares to the 1080, which I have. Dont care how it compares to its peers, sure most dont other than bragging rights or feeling despondent! What about those of us who still have to upgrade because it has taken this long to save for it?! We aren't like reviewers or influencers getting all this stuff for free...

I had a GTX 1080 strix Edition which was a fantastic card and my RTX 2070 Black Edition what's faster than it by a good margin and pretty much all the benchmarks I did which were well over 30. There for the RTX 2080 super would be significantly faster than the GTX 1080 Ti. A moderate upgrade. I would say it is a good upgrade if you want to upgrade now. The GTX 1080 is still a great card if your 1080P and 1440p. I would really keep it if you don't need to go to 4K.

I am not sure what the goal of these articles are sometimes. Instead of people being excited that Nvidia is dropping the price and making it a little faster there is this constant criticism.
AMD charges cheap prices because they have to. The only way they were able to survive was undercut everybody. Competition is good I understand but the Nvidia cards still have the RTX features on them, perform better imo and in my own personal experience. I am sure that it's much more expensive to make these cards then it would be Navi.
And I don't even know why you mentioned a navi at all in this article. They have no place here at this tier.
It would be foolish to even think that Nvidia was going to make the RTX 2080 even close to the RTX 2080 Ti.
And these are founders edition cards which are fine but these cards also usually can be overclocked quite well with just using sliders.
Personally I hate the fact that Nvidia and AMD don't just sell their cards maxed out. I like overclocking but I hate having to do it.
So in conclusion 6% was less than the 10 to 15% increase over the RTX 2080 I was expecting but this is hardly a sample size. And personally I could care less about ashes of the singularity.
People should be happy there with $100 off and 6% more performance. How is that a bad thing?

What about how it compares to the 1080, which I have. Dont care how it compares to its peers, sure most dont other than bragging rights or feeling despondent! What about those of us who still have to upgrade because it has taken this long to save for it?! We aren't like reviewers or influencers getting all this stuff for free...

I am pleased with the results. I bought my rtx 2080 in Nov last year which would of made it a waste of money.

The 2080S isn't meant to be a big upgrade, it's a replacement with only the top binned chips being used. ALL the CUDA cores are used with none locked. The regular 2080s have around 120 of them locked, and the 2070S are also 2080 chips with around 500 of them locked (due to controlled performance and possibly weaker/bad sectors of cores)
The 2080S is the exact same price as the 2080s and doesn't look like that will change much with how well the 2070 and 2070S are selling...
If you're in the market you can't go wrong with a 2080S